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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42726: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:28:38 PM

...Mewtwo's a cat. Just saying.

As for Greninja, yeah, it didn't really stand out nearly as much as the other 2 Starters overall, but it was popular for a Kalos Trainer setup compared to the other two.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42727: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:36:21 PM

Uhhh...No. >.> Not in the slightest. Not even Mew, his clone-mother, is a cat, it's only vaguely catlike.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42728: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:44:46 PM

Mew's a fetus, so it's whatever you want it to be, really.

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#42729: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:46:41 PM

You can't really ignore that it's got cat ears and has a name that's an onomatopoeia for a cat's cry, though.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42732: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:55:50 PM

[up][up][up] Pretty much. It's blatantly there.

Mewtwo is pretty much the same, just clearly more humanoid. Both have blatant feline characteristics. As I said, we've had a playable cat in Melee, at least.

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#42733: Apr 25th 2014 at 3:57:53 PM

The should make Blaze the Cat the next Sonic representative. That'd give us a character who's undeniably a cat.

Alternatively, make Bat-Cat playable.

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#42734: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:29:00 PM

If I may interrupt, I believe this is relevent. About half a year ago, Namco put out a poll for a new Pac-Man design to use for a mobile game, and out of all of these, D won.

So... Could that be the design they use for Smash? Or will they use something else? Or will Sakurai make something else entirely?

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42735: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:32:04 PM

Both have blatant feline characteristics

Yeah, no. With Mew, yeah it has feline characteristics, but its morphology is still radically different from any kind of cat.

Mewtwo isn't discernibly feline at all. It's got a long tail and fleshy ear-like horns, but other than that it's basically a bizarre unidentifiable mutant.

There's no reason to call either of them cats when the resemblance is only vague. There's plenty of Pokemon actually referred to as cats in canon, call them cats. Mew/two are not and never have been.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#42736: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:39:59 PM

I really like that Pac-Man design. But I'm not sure how the spindly legs would work in 3D.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42737: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:53:55 PM

And so is every Pokemon. None are 100% identical to cats in any way. They've all got differences from any real life species a specific one is based upon.

I will stand by what I said, Mew is definitely cat-based, and Mewtwo follows, just to a slightly lesser degree. Also, the argument doesn't really even make sense. He's slightly less similar to the other Cat Pokemon(who are of course more similar to a specific Cat species they're based upon), so he's barely cat-like at all? Despite having a cat-based name, and feline characteristics? It doesn't really add up whatsoever. Mewtwo still has feline characteristics. He's just a Mutant Cat at this point, respectively. Which more or less fits many of his name meanings as is. Mew(sound a cat makes, can partially be mutant), and well, two(a clone, which also fits the mutant part).

As for Pac-Man, I honestly don't even think he has a decent chance of being playable. There's little uniqueness to him at this point, and now that we've seen many of the Namco Arcade characters being some kind of item, I think he fits far better there only. There's other types of Namco characters who actually have more unique movesets(Lloyd with two swords, Nightmare has a very specific swordstyle that nobody uses. While heavy sword users exist, none are like him specifically. Same applies to Siegfried, of course. They're near identical, minus a few moves. I'd even love a Night Terror Final Smash, where while he is hardly invincible, maybe he'd have low gravity while in the air to note how he couldn't be Staged Out in his home series. In this case, it'd just improve his recovery and nothing more. I don't want another Master Hand here).

edited 25th Apr '14 4:56:50 PM by Irene

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#42738: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:57:43 PM

Sakurai has said before that the third-party characters for Smash have to be "legendary". I think Pac-Man is probably the only Namco-Bandai character that could fit that description like Sonic, Snake, and Mega Man have.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#42739: Apr 25th 2014 at 4:59:04 PM

I believe Pac-Man is Miyamoto's favorite video game character. Not sure if that bolsters his odds, but it's worth noting.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42740: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:04:09 PM

I don't know where he said "legendary". But he has said "special situation" and that Bandai-Namco is given zero special consideration for a character as any others. That's why I put no real stock in Pac-Man. He's not severely special to any kind of Console or Handheld. He's just notable as an Arcade character, which makes him far better fit as a Special Flag summoning where he sticks to his roots than anything else.

http://www.nintendo-insider.com/2013/06/17/sakurai-many-third-party-characters-in-super-smash-bros-unlikely/ also explains it. Bandai-Namco having a lot of items is so far the only thing they've directly being given consideration for at all, but I think that's solely because they're working on the game, and nothing more. I don't expect them to have a character in the first place, but it would be nice.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42741: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:08:39 PM

~sigh~ Well that's your opinion Irene. And you're free to think that. (I don't really care about whether they're cats...)

But honestly, arguing with you is a bit like arguing with a wall, no matter the subject. :/

You could honestly lighten up a bit...

edited 25th Apr '14 5:16:35 PM by CassidyTheDevil

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#42742: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:21:48 PM

My god, design A is terrible.

I like C, though. Better than D in my opinion.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#42743: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:23:11 PM

Design A is the only one I even find halfway decent, for Pac-Man, that is. I like the bright colors and defined parts. I don't like any of the Ghosts' designs, though.

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#42744: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:24:22 PM

I like B's design. Looks like a kind of 50s throwback...

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#42745: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:33:08 PM

I still think a Soul Series character would be a better Namco rep. You know, to return the favor with Link.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#42746: Apr 25th 2014 at 5:34:52 PM

I'd prefer a Dark Souls character.

Gaping Dragon for Smash 4, please.

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Nintendork64 Since: Jul, 2011
#42747: Apr 25th 2014 at 6:04:49 PM

I like the ghosts in A and the Pac Man in C. I'm surprised that D won. Not a fan of that one myself.

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#42748: Apr 25th 2014 at 6:18:23 PM

Interesting tidbit about Mew. Its name is also "Mew" in the Japanese.

Which makes me wonder what its name is supposed to be, since I originally thought "cat goes 'mew'", but "Mew" is not the Japanese word for the sound a cat makes.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#42749: Apr 25th 2014 at 6:22:54 PM

There was a really bad case of gratuitous English in generation 1 of Pokemon when it came to names (the legendary birds were named Freezer, Fire, and Thunder), so it's very possible it could of been after a cat meowing.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#42750: Apr 25th 2014 at 6:24:15 PM

All of the Pokemon characters should have a Shiny costume.

Like, they should sparkle just like in the games.


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