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#41026: Apr 11th 2014 at 10:20:43 AM

I have concerns that the sooner release of the 3DS version will damage the expectations for the Wii U version's winter release.

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#41027: Apr 11th 2014 at 10:30:09 AM

I'm fine with 3DS getting released first. Remember, Wii U has other games releasing in 2014 besides Mario Kart and Sm4sh. This way the 3DS version (which was and is treated as a separate thing from Wii U's just with the same roster) won't cannibalize the potential sales the Wii U version can generate. I am concerned that the whole roster will get spoiled for those who want the Wii U version more (myself included).

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#41028: Apr 11th 2014 at 10:35:31 AM

Looking through old posts on this thread is a bit funny now. If only we could've told our past selves what was going to happen with certain characters.

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#41029: Apr 11th 2014 at 10:54:42 AM

I remember that I proposed the possibility of Zelda and Shiek getting separate slots in this game, and how it was quickly shot down by a few folks here. HA!

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#41030: Apr 11th 2014 at 10:59:42 AM

So,in regards to a Namco rep, I'd also like to suggest a Tales character.

It might inspire Namco to make a Tales Series game for Wii U.

I'd go with Yuri Lowell. He's got a more acrobatic and flashy style that still works quite well.

edited 11th Apr '14 11:01:24 AM by handsomerob

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#41031: Apr 11th 2014 at 11:07:39 AM

Eh, the Tales Series is decidedly more associated with Sony systems. All 14 (soon to be 15) main series games are playable on Sony consoles, while only 6 are playable on Nintendo consoles, and all but one of those are inferior versions, no less.

On the other hand, I believe the director of Tales of Vesperia is working on the new Smash Bros, so it's possible, maybe.

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#41032: Apr 11th 2014 at 11:08:35 AM

I'm firmly convinced now that if Namco is putting a character in the game, it's Dig Dug.

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#41033: Apr 11th 2014 at 11:19:26 AM

Have to admit, I'd be okay with the Namco X Capcom version of Taizo Hori.

edited 11th Apr '14 11:20:22 AM by Pulse

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#41035: Apr 11th 2014 at 11:53:32 AM

I think the Namco representative might be a Soul Caliber character since GameXplain pointed out that Final Destination looks like a combination of Soul Edge and Soul Caliber swords.

Andre says it in the analysis in the link I posted at 12:30 in the video.

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#41036: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:01:32 PM

Yuri Lowell didn't even debut with Nintendo.

If you're gonna put in a Tales character then they should at least come from a game that is playable on Nintendo. Lloyd seems best.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:04:36 PM by Keybreak

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#41037: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:01:33 PM

Eh, the Tales Series is decidedly more associated with Sony systems. All 14 (soon to be 15) main series games are playable on Sony consoles, while only 6 are playable on Nintendo consoles, and all but one of those are inferior versions, no less.

That said, the series began on the Super Famicom.

[up] if one truly wants to go for technicalities, he has at least been on a Nintendo system by way of Project X Zone.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:02:53 PM by Enlong

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#41038: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:07:36 PM

I think the Namco representative might be a Soul Caliber character since Game Xplain pointed out that Final Destination looks like a combination of Soul Edge and Soul Caliber swords.
I ain't seeing it. There's a clean vs. corrupted look, but all the details are completely different from anything in the Soul series. An extremely vague similarity isn't really anything to go on.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:07:47 PM by Pulse

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#41039: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:09:36 PM

No I do not want to get technical. I quote myself elsewhere, "DETAILS TECHNICALITIES AND SEMANTICS ARE THE TRIPLET DEMONS OF LANGUAGE [what characters get into Super Smash Bros 4]".

Hehe, but no, I still see Yuri as too Xboxy. Lloyd is Nintendo-born. Sort of.

That is if SSB really needed another swordsman...

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#41040: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:19:07 PM

I am terrible with predictions. I didn't think Olimar would be reduced to 3 Pikmin, though that was because of issues with his recovery. I didn't think the Phantom was an attack because I knew they wouldn't cut Sheik, and I didn't consider separating them.

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#41041: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:36:08 PM

That said, the series began on the Super Famicom.

Yeah...but to be fair, that was before there were Sony consoles. By the time the second game in the series came around, the Playstation had been released and they've mostly stuck with them ever since.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#41042: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:40:26 PM

So why do people think that Falcon and Ness might have gotten cut? That wouldn't make sense. Otherwise Sheik would have been in danger of being removed if lack of confirmation is only reason

Ice Climbers seem to be pretty much confirmed for being back because of polar bear enemies.. I mean, they didn't have exactly complex attack pattern and I don't see other reason to have them be back

edited 11th Apr '14 12:40:59 PM by SpookyMask

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#41043: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:44:38 PM

[up]? We've seen Goroh already, which means we already know Falcon is back. And we've seen Mother items, which means at least one of Ness or Lucas is coming back, and Ness likely gets higher priority.

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#41046: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:45:52 PM

Well, technically items don't confirm characters since there are several items from unrepresented series...but yeah, I highly doubt Ness will be cut.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:46:43 PM by beorc

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#41047: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:46:26 PM

I chalk it up to a combo of them not having recent games so they think Nintendo will cut them because of irrelevance, and just normal "is my character in Smash 4?" paranoia.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:46:53 PM by nigelstack345

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#41048: Apr 11th 2014 at 12:50:41 PM

Well, with them getting rid of transformations anyways, this would have been a perfect opportunity to cut Sheik, if they considered not having been in any games in a long time, or only having been in one game for that matter, to be a good reason to cut someone. I think her inclusion should dispel any concerns about that. Then again, the people who are genuinely worried that Captain Falcon and Ness will be cut probably aren't thinking especially rationally to begin with.

edited 11th Apr '14 12:51:17 PM by beorc

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#41050: Apr 11th 2014 at 1:04:42 PM

@Sterok: I've seen some people assume that for some bizarre reason.

^Ya know, regardless of whether Sakura is trolling or not, I'd say that Ridley's move pattern still makes sense as "boss" since if Yellow Devil is example... Well, it stands around mostly, attacks at times and then stands around again. I know thats what Yellow Devil did in original game as well, but I'm just saying that since they are stage hazards, they might not be as active as normal bosses.

But yeah, the analyzing his shadow is interesting


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