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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#40801: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:30:36 AM

... You know, I want there being an event in the 3DS version where you are on the Balloon Fight stage and you have to knock out three Villagers by hittig them during their Balloon Helmet move.

And for added amusement, only have Bumpers spawn in Balloon Fight stage. Bumpers vs. Flippers.

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#40802: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:40:03 AM

I like that Shiek and Zero Suit Samus are now seperate characters because now Zelda and Shiek have an extra attack that isn't used for transformations.

I also only played as one or the other so I never chose to switch between characters.

As for Samus and Zero Suit Samus I didn't like that the transformation was tied to the Final Smash so if I was playing as one that I wanted to play as at the time I never chose to use the Final Smash because I didn't want to transform into the other character and get acclimated to a whole new playing style in the same match.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#40803: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:43:26 AM

[up]It wasn't tied to the final smash alone...Rapid Up and Down taunt button pressing or holding which ever button on the character select screen when done choosing the characters.

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Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#40804: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:48:58 AM

[up]I knew that but what I was talking about was if I chose to play at Zero Suit Samus at the start of the match I didn't want to use the Smash Ball so I could stay as Zero Suit Samus or if I chose to play as Samus I didn't want to switch after the Final Smash and have to change my play style.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#40805: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:53:59 AM

Huh, I got a post thumped. That's a new one.

In case anyone was missing out on the fun: To get at the crux of the matter, I think I know the reasoning behind the question about how Mewtwo is, allegedly, the most loathed Melee character. I did hear that there was apparently some subset of the fanbase who literally petitioned not to have Mewtwo in Brawl because, somehow, they were under the impression that he could not be well implemented, as if his weakness in Melee was somehow inherent to the character rather than a consequence of a few ill-advised numbers in the code somewhere.

I might have consequently had a bit of a shellshock flashback to the time I learned about this. (I was angry.) (A bit.) (Because dumb people.)

But yeah, it boggles the mind. Mewtwo even technically has a really decent moveset! His tilts and all work great. Just increase some numbers for more priority, more damage, more knockback on KO-moves, bigger hitboxes, etc, and you've got a very good character. How anyone can think that this character can and should not be brought back and done well is so beyond me it just tears away at the very base of my conception of reality.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40806: Apr 10th 2014 at 9:58:22 AM

I'm really hoping he's back in Smash for.

Seriously, Mewtwo and Ridley need drop into a fight between two other guys in the E3 trailer and just wreck shit.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#40807: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:00:11 AM

His down and side specials could use changing, of course. I'm thinking Future Sight and Telekinesis, respectively.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#40808: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:09:27 AM

Both those characters would be nice to have, though I don't really invest myself in anticipating characters anymore. I did feel a bit of a stinging sensation in my heart for a moment when I saw one of Rosalina's physical attacks and realized it looked a lot like the way I pictured a playable Gardevoir moving... but alas, 'twas not to be.

As for Mewtwo, it would be great if they went flashy by way of non-flashiness, got rid of all the purple stuff and instead just made his physic energy manifest as distortions in space-time. Just these little fields where the background behind it is distorted as if you were looking through a funny mirror.

Actually, scratch that first bit, that would be flashy like hell.

edited 10th Apr '14 10:11:29 AM by Fawriel

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40809: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:23:16 AM

There are ways to make him a better fighter. A Mewtwo with Future Sight and Psycho Cut would be pretty cool. Hypothetically speaking every character could be good if you give them enough positive factors to balance out the negative factors. Too bad they won't give him the spoon for some of his attacks.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40810: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:29:02 AM

I wonder what ZSS's Final Smash will be, assuming it isn't Power Suit Samus.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40811: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:29:25 AM

Hopefully, something involving the Gunship.

As for Mewtwo, it would be great if they went flashy by way of non-flashiness, got rid of all the purple stuff and instead just made his physic energy manifest as distortions in space-time. Just these little fields where the background behind it is distorted as if you were looking through a funny mirror.
I kinda like the idea of that being standard for his more indirect moves, but his more directly physical attacks retain the darkness aspect, like his Forward Air attack and his Forward Smash but not his Up Smash, for example.

edited 10th Apr '14 10:32:43 AM by Pulse

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40812: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:30:24 AM

It can still be the Crystal Flash. She just won't get her armor back from it.

TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#40813: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:30:32 AM

Maybe it will still be the same, minus the transformation.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40814: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:31:35 AM

I kinda wish regular Samus's Final Smash was changed to Power Bomb. I like Other M's version of them, and Zero Laser isn't based on anything from Metroid.

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ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#40815: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:32:18 AM

What will Sheik's Final Smash be?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40816: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:32:56 AM

[up][up]It's sort of similar to the Hyper or Phazon beam.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40817: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:33:19 AM

I can't think of anything for Sheik's Final Smash...I mean, I guess that's not surprising, because her entire moveset is pretty much made up from whole cloth, but yeah. Hopefully she'll get a different one from Zelda, regardless.

edited 10th Apr '14 10:33:42 AM by beorc

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#40818: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:33:21 AM

Her Harp, maybe. Puts everyone to sleep. Even in the air.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40819: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:34:23 AM

"Sort of similar to" isn't "is", though.

The main reason it was "Zero Laser" was to justify the transformation into ZSS afterward, which is no longer relevant.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40820: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:34:40 AM

[up][up][up]Ah, good point- I'm actually wondering if Zelda will get a new Final Smash and Sheik will retain the more directly action-y Light Arrow.

[up]I'm mostly okay with it- It's still derived from something Samus usually can do, fire beams, even if the exact format is different. I kinda wish it were the Hyper Beam, though...

edited 10th Apr '14 10:35:49 AM by Pulse

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40821: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:37:13 AM

That could work. Granted, I believe it was Zelda herself who uses the Light Arrows in OOT, but she does have a greater amount of possibilities for a Final Smash beyond that, compared to Sheik.

...Clearly Zelda's Final Smash will be five different Zeldas firing Light Arrows all at once.

edited 10th Apr '14 10:38:35 AM by beorc

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Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#40822: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:38:17 AM

I finally read up on the whole thread and all I can say is...I feel like not having Smash Run in the Wii U version is a mistake, especially seeing as I can't yet see what mode there is to replace it. I'm not buying the 3DS version, I know that much.

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ScorpioRat from Houston, Texas Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
#40823: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:39:46 AM

Maybe Zelda will make a Skyward Sword reference and channel Hylia to do something?

Jinxmenow Ghosts N' Stuff Remix from everywhere you look, everywhere you look Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
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#40824: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:43:03 AM

[up] They might not want that to be It Was His Sled like the Zelda-is-Sheik bit.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#40825: Apr 10th 2014 at 10:43:22 AM

In more times than not, Light Arrows have something to do with Zelda. In OOT and ALBW, she gives them to you. In WW, TP and ST, she uses them in the final battle. And in Four Swords Adventure, she charges up a light ball which you need to shoot with an arrow to stun Ganon. Only in MM and MC have the Light Arrows having no relation with Zelda.

edited 10th Apr '14 10:44:43 AM by TPPR10

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