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X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#40401: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:45:35 PM

I don't know why you're bemoaning it when the Zero Suit's been a thing since 2004.

On the contrary, I can't see how the cross-platform release isn't a smart move for Nintendo. The 3DS has been a portable juggernaut since it picked up steam about two years back and the Wii U needs a similar push. Releasing one of the company's biggest Killer Apps on both would be a good thing.

Anyway, it looks like some GameFAQs posters think Isaac will make the jump to playable status since his Assist Trophy wasn't shown. (Then again, a bunch of other Brawl ATs weren't shown...) And they're having the same Ridley debate we are.

Here's a more notable "conspiracy" thread.

edited 8th Apr '14 11:48:13 PM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#40402: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:47:52 PM

Is it just me, or does the platform in Final Destination kind of look like the good and evil swords from the Soul Calibur franchise?

At least the colour scheme.

edited 8th Apr '14 11:49:53 PM by edvedd

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#40403: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:51:13 PM

[up]Link was in Soulcalibur II... Siegfried for SSB 4?

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#40404: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:52:19 PM

I was just looking at it and Soul Calibur just popped into my head, and I was like "Oh right, Namco."

edited 8th Apr '14 11:52:29 PM by edvedd

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#40405: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:52:26 PM

It has never been combat worthy in a Metroid game and there are over half a dozen better things from the series to put in the game, since you asked.

edited 8th Apr '14 11:52:42 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#40406: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:52:54 PM

[up][up][up][up] Probably designed that way deliberately. It makes sense to put influence into the game.

[up] And yet she kicked ass in Smash. Which is all that matters. Original canon doesn't.

edited 8th Apr '14 11:53:56 PM by Irene

Shadow?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40407: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:54:02 PM

Looking at the footage again, Ridley seems to be hovering in the air without "jumping" for a really long time. I really don't think he's teasing him as anything other than a boss hazard.

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#40408: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:56:49 PM

Unless of course the giant dragon has some sort of flight power.

But really, I'm thinking it might actually be a Meta Ridley stage hazard and a playable Ridley. the silver wing gave me some hope. That, and the fact that Sakurai was trolling his ass off in the video.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#40409: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:58:03 PM

Okay, I lol'd at "Color TV Game 15"

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#40410: Apr 8th 2014 at 11:59:41 PM

Which is totally not Pong, thankyouverymuch!

I sure said that!
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#40412: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:01:10 AM

For the record...

I'd like to see some sort of Top 10 Trolling Moments from the Direct list. Palutena would probably be at the top.

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#40413: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:02:36 AM

She's still pretty much an original character without any advantages actually being one would bring. It'd be different if Metroid was something hurting for representatives or Nintendo was lacking in new characters in general. The only thing their short on is things from new stories, so to speak.

Sora's already transferred Mewtwo over to Lucario, more or less, so it is not like there would be zero precedent for doing the same to the latex whip lady.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40414: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:03:46 AM

Sora's already transferred Mewtwo over to Lucario, more or less, so it is not like there would be zero precedent for doing the same to the latex whip lady.
One similar special does not make Lucario the same as Mewtwo, y'know.

I sure said that!
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#40415: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:04:04 AM

@ Anom: This guy would disagree with you.

(Don't Shoot the Messenger!)

This was apparently edited onto Sakurai's Wikipedia page after the Nintendo Direct Trailer.

Death

Sakurai was attacked on April 9, 2014 at 8:05 am at Namco Bandai Japan after angry Mewtwo fans stormed the building after the announcement of Greninja in Super Smash bros. Sakurai was apparently carried to the top floor of the building where the fans threw him out the window saying "You must recover!". Upon impact Sakurai broke every bone in his body. A angry fan then stole a steamroller and flattened Sakurai's remains, a Mewtwo plush was discovered in his office sitting in his chair.

I feel horrible for laughing, but I think it was the "You must recover!" that got to me.

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#40416: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:04:57 AM

It'd be different if Metroid was something hurting for representatives

This is the same Metroid that has basically two recurring characters, right?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40417: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:05:16 AM

The silver-ish wing tip DOES make me sincerely curious, as does his hesitance to just say "Ridley's a boss, sorry" or even SHOW him beyond a shadow and a wingtip. But I'm guessing he's just being a bit of a troll here, or expects us to just interpret it as a deconfirmation.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#40418: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:05:22 AM

When it comes to Pokemon, they really focus on the whole "bipedal" thing. Well, when they're the same size (not Charizard).

Also, maybe it's possible that Ridley's a boss, but Sakurai thinks it's so awesome that he wants people to see it for themselves.

edited 9th Apr '14 12:06:48 AM by doctrainAUM

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#40419: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:07:08 AM

Yeah, I also lol'd at Pseudo-Palutena fake out

TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#40420: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:08:02 AM

Anyone notice that there was a Mii in the cage at the Find Mii stage this time? Now, not that it can't be another legitimate Alfonso situation, this might be a knock against the idea of Miis as a character.

Also, bit of trivia: for people like me that counted PT as one character, Charizard and Greninja brings the number of Pokemon reps to 4, the same number as in Melee and Brawl. If we can still think of Jigglypuff as returning, that will give Pokemon the same number as Mario in Melee and 3DU, and be the most Pokemon has had in one game (unless you count PT as 3 characters.)

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#40421: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:08:28 AM

[up]x4 But again, he moves like a human is controlling him directly. Sakurai's constant apparent misdirection makes me think Ridley's gonna be the big drop at E3.

[up]That's actually a part of Find Mii in the on-board software. I'm assuming the stage will use the system Mii for the cage as well.

edited 9th Apr '14 12:10:10 AM by Pulse

I sure said that!
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#40422: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:10:45 AM

On the topic of SoCal influences for FD, we need that announcer as this game's announcer. It's the only logical course of action.

[up] Yeah, the link I posted above has a GameFAQ member basically spell out all the nuances of how Ridley's shadow was moving. To keep it succinct, he pointed out that the quirks in his movement were identical to a human-controlled character.

edited 9th Apr '14 12:12:51 AM by X2X

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40423: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:10:47 AM

I would love that. But I won't get my hopes up.

Though personally, I feel like he was moving like a boss, no pun intended, not a human-controlled character. Moving in spurts and remaining on one place for quite a while.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40424: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:13:10 AM

That's just it, though. A boss would move left and keep moving left until it reached its destination, i.e. the end of the stage, instead of moving left, stopping for no reason and then moving left very suddenly.

I sure said that!
X2X You'll never see it coming... from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming...
#40425: Apr 9th 2014 at 12:15:23 AM

The pattern seemed way too erratic for it to be part of a boss' A.I.

(Now watch me eat my words in the upcoming weeks/months.)

"Just wants a friend but had to give up his ding dong for it, tragic." - AngelLightStar

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