Alright, I'd said I'd recap my initial thoughts about the whole thing:
- A joke about his own health.
- Wait, it's actually being developed at Bandai Namco Games? That's a surprised. Did HAL Labs drop the ball or something?
- Yeah, he did the "directly" hand gesture
- Release dates: More reason for me to get at 3DS and not give a crap about the Wii U. This could hurt the console in the short run.
- Huh. Smart in keeping the FPS up.
- I would rather have the same stages on both, but I understand why it wouldn't work.
- Aw, limited music again, on the 3DS version.
- I'm glad to see Jungle Japes, even if it's handheld exclusive.
- The 3DS stages look simpler, but that may be a smart move. More stages that are actually playable.
- Good, past stages are back.
- Man, Yellow Devil looks interesting, but possibly obnoxious. High risk, high reward, too. There seems to be more incentive to stay back. Also, the tilting platforms are a nice throwback.
- "Boss Characters": This was the first moment when we could tell for sure Sakurai was trying to troll the audience.
- He just said they appear in other stages, not that Ridley was one of them.
- As I'd previously said, that doesn't necessarily specify which Ridley.
- I notice on rewatch that the top of his wings (viewable for a brief moment) seem to be silver. Hmm.
- Okay, at the first Trophy quiz, I'd expected that he'd troll us with one later on. I didn't expect how hard we'd be trolled, though.
- Ah, the For Fun/Glory split. That was epic trolling about the Final Destination meme.
- For fun only records victories. I feel that's designed to curb rage quits, but may not do that.
- I still wish For Glory could use Battlefield.
- The variations on Final Destination made for a great move.
- "dropping out for technical reasons" - read: console disconnecters
- I hope the new GSP ranking system is fun. It's still an epeen, though.
- "some sort of matchmaking" - that sounds unfinished.
- Items
- Beam Sword, my old favorite
- Bumper, alright, that was decent
- Smart Bomb, that was pretty good
- Motion sensor: another old favorite
- POW Block, alright, that seems pretty fun
- Beetle: that may be annoying and/or useless. Is it like the anti-deku nut?
- Fire bar: what the shit yes!
- Back shield: useful, but I don't really care.
- Bombchu: haha.
- Fairy bottle: new healing item.
- Ore Club: what's with all the sword type weapons now? Well, it looks cool enough.
- X Bomb: another bomb... eh.
- Hocotate Bomb: yet another bomb. Eh.
- Rocket Belt: Little Mac. Leader of the X-Men. Owner of a jetpack.
◊ Also, looks like it'll make up for his terrible air game.
- Steel Diver: a special type of gun?
- Trophy 2: it's the Master Sword Girl!
- Assist trophies:
- Huh, All-Star Mode confirmed.
- Darn, no Saki for playable, and Sin And Punishment doesn't have its own game logo. Not sure what the second says for Isa&Kachi's chances.
- Skull Kid is like Palkia meets Clefairy, probably.
- I knew Ashley would be an assist.
- "Oh great, not only is Dark Samus not playable, I have to call her Dark Samus."
- POOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGG!!
- Pokemon
- FUCKING YES MASTER BALL!! I feel like I saw this was coming.
- Arceus seemed disappointing.
- I'm happy Meowth is back to his old self.
- Fennekin used PK Fire!
- Gogoat: eh.
- Palkia: well, so much for Spear Pillar being a flashback stage.
- Returning fighters:
- The second I saw Samus' final smash, I knew where he was going with that trolling.
- Honestly, I loved throwing Varia Suit pieces around as 0SS
- This was the point where we should be well aware that Sakurai was a Lying Creator intentionally out to troll. Don't take anything he says at face value.
- Weaponized heels! Those are going to be fun.
- Honestly, I actually thing Zelda got nerfed here.
- Shiek: Hmm. The whip seems to have been changed, and Bouncing Fish seems to have been borrowed from 0SS.
- This was where we should have realized Pokemon Trainer was gone as it was. Indeed, I'd asked about it at this point.
- Kirby gets a less original final smash, and a hammer move from Dedede.
- Dedede's Gordos... Honestly, I'd prefer the laser eye guys.
- Lucario... player expectations... does the Power Rangers gesture. Damn, Mega Evolutions. I really dislike those. At least the way it works is okay.
- Olimar got significantly simplified, so maybe I'll actually give him a shot. Also, the recovery became quite interesting.
- Pit just got buffed on the whole, huh? Even a much cooler looking final smash.
- Yoshi: maybe they are going more towards bipedal fighters.
- The second I saw Samus' final smash, I knew where he was going with that trolling.
- Pseudo-Palutena: the trolling is too heavy for me to think Palutena isn't playable. Ridley on the other hand could go either way.
- New characters:
- Rosalina's Down-B could be really broken.
- Little Mac: I feel like "punching with both hands" and "exceedingly fresh" could be memetic lines. When I play Mac, I'm probably only going to play as Wire Frame Mac. Also, I wonder how they did that other camera angle.
- Villager: Pocket could possibly be broken. Timber seems slow, and "Dream Home is pretty much just Kirby's Chef.
- Mega Man: I like how many bosses he references.
- I really hope by tomorrow someone has made a parody of his final smash using Bad Box Art Megaman and Frank West in the Megaman suit. Maybe even Mighty No 9 too.
- Wii Fit Trainers: The S made me realize that the male was also playable. That disappointed me.
- I'm just going to play as the female.
- Deep Breathing and Sun Salutation both look interesting.
- Custom movesets is huge.
- I didn't know what King Kihunter was, so I thought due to the music that it was more Ridley trolling.
- I thought Smash Run was a collection of previous Adventure Modes. It figured it would be a shout out to another Kirby thing. Still, it looks really cool.
- Chandelure... I love Chandelure!
- I zoned out at some of the shots of returning fighters, honestly.
- Charizard here answered my earlier question about Pokemon Trainer, but brought up another one about Squirtle and Ivysaur.
- I was the first here to notice Greninja was coming, the second we saw it unfold its arms. Honeslty, I dislike the thing. It has an outright immunity to its fellow starter, and an amazing ability. It just seemed too much better, and I disliked it out of Hype Backlash. Unfortunately, I had to see that it played well.
- Considering we're still lacking a Grass Starter, I too thought Sceptile would be likely in the near future. I'd like to see Mewtwo back. We don't have to keep Jigglypuff.
- The references to Substitute in this video were hilarious, though.
Alright, so I notice that the majority of my hoped for characters are still possibilities, and the more obvious ones were the ones that he trolled hard on. Really, it was odd how much of my list wasn't even hinted at, except for the the trolling of Palutena and Ridley, and Dark Samus as an assist trophy.
edited 8th Apr '14 9:44:47 PM by wanderlustwarrior
Namco-Bandai working on this game(Common Knowledge)...HAL was obviously busy making excuses for not working on a 3D Kirby game.
There's no way Mega Man couldn't have had a ton of bosses referenced...unless they didn't give him any of his powers.
edited 8th Apr '14 9:42:19 PM by Randomness4
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I just wanted it to be female only, is all. Thanks for reading through all that, though.
I know they were working on it, but I didn't know they were effectively the lead team. And I didn't say anything about him not referencing a ton of bosses. We also knew from his debut that he would. I'm just saying appreciation.
edited 8th Apr '14 9:43:39 PM by wanderlustwarrior
So at this point, I guess I don't really have any particular wishes for this game. Ridley was the only character I was particularly hyped up about getting, and he's pretty much deconfirmed. I also wanted Kamek, but the Magikoopa enemies in I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-City-Trial kinda make me suspect he won't make it. And Rool seems rather unlikely.
On the plus side, My Music confirmed, so if we also get the Stage Builder I'll be pretty satiated mechanics-wise.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Sakurai is such a master troll. Him teasing us with Iwata's "directly to you bit" twice just further cements this irrefutable fact.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!I'll have to rewatch the video but I don't recall his lips moving during those bits, I don't recall him completing the gesture, and it really seems like something he'd do.
edited 8th Apr '14 9:53:18 PM by Zelenal
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!I like to imagine Wii Fit Trainer is just an avatar for some horrific, fitness-obsessed Eldritch Abomination. Hence looking like a slightly-off humanoid and being able to spontaneously change sex and shoot off strange energy balls just from yoga.
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
x4 Commenting on actions = translation fail?
edited 8th Apr '14 9:55:55 PM by Randomness4
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Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite....so, new things. Neat.
Don't care about Greninja too much. Yay, new Pokemon. Looks like they took a page from Project M's book and inserted a way to turn off the fun gimmicks for the stages. Yay, items. Glad I have a 3DS. Hyped for City Trial or whatever they call it. Honestly I thought that they mean there would be a City Trial stage, which I would dig the hell out of.
New Pokemon stage...?
edited 8th Apr '14 10:02:11 PM by Randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.@ Enlong: Are you talking about the area with the dragon statue in the background as Greninja deals with Fox?
edited 8th Apr '14 10:06:30 PM by X2X
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@Midna
That's not necessarily concrete. Items exist that do what a character already does. Like the Screw Attack.
edit:
So, will this thread move from using the term "Sheik'd" to the term "Greninja'd"?
edited 8th Apr '14 9:28:21 PM by Enlong
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