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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#40177: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:45:13 PM

I keep dem Smash Balls on because awesome, and I'm sure a lot of people do too. Just because it's not good competitively doesn't mean it's not used.

@Samus and long fall boots: G La DOS is best Adam

edited 8th Apr '14 6:46:42 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Rollin' rollin' rollin'
#40178: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:45:47 PM

Long-fall boots were my first thought, too. That much closer to fulfilling my dream of actually having Chell in a Smash Bros game.

...Hey, a guy can dream.

"We're home, Chewie."
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40179: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:48:18 PM

Enlong: Night Slash seems like a fair one, as does Acrobatics. Was Night Slash the one where the screen cut to black before having a red cut across the background?
It does seem o be Night Slash, almost definitively.

I sure said that!
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#40180: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:48:44 PM

Chell wouldn't be so great in Super Smash Bros. There aren't many solid surfaces to shoot portals on.

But it WOULD be fun having her shoot portals under characters and have them shooting out the side. [lol]

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40181: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:49:19 PM

Seems sort of an odd choice for a Final Smash since Night Slash is a relatively weak move (And even runs off of Greninja's weaker attacking stat, not that that's relevant here), but I suppose there's not much else besides Hydro Cannon and that'd be yet another beam Final Smash.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40182: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:50:07 PM

Night Slash is my guess. The screen got dark and Greninja seemed to be slicing an enemy multiple times. It's a Dark type and a ninja so it would fit thematically.

[up]Night Slash is 70 base power. That's strong for a Dark type move.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:52:11 PM by Kostya

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#40183: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:50:10 PM

wild mass guessGreninja is Nintendo's answer to Strider.wild mass guess

Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40184: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:50:12 PM

Smash Ball:

General Causual Play = 100%

Casual Play = 50/50

General Competetive Play = 0%

Competitive Play = 25 - 50%

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#40185: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:51:01 PM

I know Sceptile is probably the one that would get in if there was a Grass Fighter, since it's bipedal and gen 3 remakes might be coming up, but I'd like to see Torterra.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40186: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:51:21 PM

[up][up]I'm...not really sure what those mean. Where'd it come from?

edited 8th Apr '14 6:51:35 PM by beorc

Welcome to th:|
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#40187: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:52:09 PM

Also, we have one new Pokeball Pokemon confirmed.

Go, GOGOAT!

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40188: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:52:39 PM

Night Slash is 70 base power. That's the second strongest dark type move.
It also has a high critical hit rate, so it carries an implication of finesse, which is appropriate for a ninja.

[up]It's a platform! Holy shit, awesome!

edited 8th Apr '14 6:53:27 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40189: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:52:42 PM

It's really sorta hard to try and argue that Final Smashes are balanced. Aside from the inherent imbalance of being an item, let alone one that needs to be broken open, there can be no case made for balance when you have monstrosities like Super Sonic and the Landmasters flying amok in contrast to easily avoided ones like Mario Finale or Peach Blossom.

I'm glad they're trying to rebalance them to some degree, even if they'll likely just be turned off for tournaments anyway. Helps make casual matches a little more balanced.

70 is strong for a Dark move, yeah, it just doesn't have the same punch as Volt Tackle's 120 or Triple Finish's collective 120 (110 for Hydro Pump and Fire Blast now). And Dark Pulse is stronger at 80. Again, I'm not complaining since it fits really well as a Final Smash and there's no point in getting hung up on translating RPG mechanics to a fighting game, I'm just observing that it's sorta odd if you think about it.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:54:39 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#40190: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:53:54 PM

Pretty much. It's like the go to ninja move now. First Strider, then again in the Death Battle with Strider, then Raven in Street Fighter X Tekken, then Decapre in Ultra Street Fighter IV.

Later on tonight I'm going to rewatch the direct and give a play by play of some of my thoughts.

More unconsciousness.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:56:51 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40191: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:53:54 PM

It's either Night Slash or Acrobatics. Given the dark screen and Greninja's type the latter seems more likely.

Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40192: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:54:44 PM

Its called Guesstimating, usually doing a whole bunch of research on something like this takes a lot of time...especially with limited searching. I obviously can't take every single person in to account...but I also can't limit my searching to a small area.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#40193: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:55:06 PM

I think the general idea with stuff like Super Sonic was that Regular Sonic was fast, and amazing at racking up damage, but absolute shit at actually launching people, so his Final Smash should compensate for that.

Guess It worked.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#40194: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:55:34 PM

@Anom:

You missed my point. Had the WiiU version been announced first then you would have been spoiled for the 3DS version since people would have posted the roster online. Hell you apparantly don't really care about being spoiled since you freely visit this thread and which directs which is/are full of spoilers so I don't understand why you're upset to begin with.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40195: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:55:54 PM

If it lasted for a shorter time, it'd be just fine, but as it is in unmodded Brawl, it's a bit of a problem.

I sure said that!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#40196: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:57:06 PM

I didn't really want Sceptile before but now that Greninja has been confirmed I'm desperate for it to get in too. It was always my favorite grass starter and it's a better fit than Meganium, Torterra, or Servine.

I just hope they don't shaft Mewtwo. Sakurai knows how much he's being demanded.

By the way, did they say if Mega Lucario is a final smash or is that some kind of aesthetic change Lucario undergoes when his aura is maxed out?

edited 8th Apr '14 6:58:35 PM by Kostya

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40197: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:57:14 PM

I don't think it's a good idea to balance characters with their Final Smash being part of the equation. Better to balance both individually.

Aside from giving characters like Sonic a harder time without items (Which, if For Glory mode is any indication, is a legit playstyle in Nintendo's eyes), it also means that WITH items it encourages stalling. My sister would often play as Sonic and just run away the entire match until a Smash Ball spawned.

@Chariot: I don't really care about being spoiled for the 3DS version. It's the Wii U version I wanted to play first. And when I say spoilers I mean hidden content, not pre-release content. It's mainly the hidden characters that'd be an issue since stages and the like are version exclusive anyway.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:59:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#40198: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:58:13 PM

I'm pretty sure the whole Super OP Sonic thing is gonna be fixed up here in 4 anyway, so I'm not worrying about that.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:58:30 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40199: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:58:13 PM

Well its not like Dodging Super Sonic is a problem...him staying on you doesn't mean much since his launching power comes from the speed.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#40200: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:58:44 PM

"Inherent imbalance of being an item"

Haaaaha, it's sad-funny because it's true. It shows up anywhere, takes a random number of cracks to open, and the final smashes aren't all equal.

But that's why I love it~

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay

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