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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#40151: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:31:44 PM

Odie: Heck, I still think it's a surprise choice, even if he is a starter. Prior to this game, not just any starter could get in; sure, there was Pokémon Trainer, but he had all three starters from the very first games in the series. Pikachu is the series mascot. Even Charizard, by himself, is the most popular of the three original starters. Greninja is relatively small fry in comparison.

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Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40152: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:32:05 PM

For Fun: Random Stage Selection, all stages except for Final Destination. All Items can appear. Good for 4-player Smash Bros. mayhem.

For Glory: Random stage selection of all the Final Destination version of stages, including Final Destination. No Items. Good for the 1 vs. 1 competitive Smashing.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40153: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:32:33 PM

I'm still not convinced Sakurai isn't gonna go for a Fire/Water/Grass trio with another starter.

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OdiefromtheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#40154: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:34:08 PM

Popularity might have been a lucky side effect, most likely he was chosen as foil to charizard being light, water, and quick. also recet.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#40155: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:34:16 PM

I wouldn't mind Chesnaught but two Gen 6 starters is a bit much.

Sceptile would be my next bet

Oh really when?
beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40156: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:34:30 PM

I don't see any reason to think the transformations were changed just to pad out the roster. Maybe the 3DS couldn't handle it, although if that's the case, then it was either "pad out the roster" or cut the characters entirely.

In any case, with Zelda and Sheik I get the impression that most people would just stick with one all the time anyways, and I think a lot of people were unhappy about the forced-switching mechanics involved with Samus and Pokemon Trainer. So I think the transformations very well could have been separated purely because it was determined to be the best decision for gameplay.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:35:10 PM by beorc

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enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#40157: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:35:34 PM

What is Greninja's Final Smash supposed to be, anyway? Acrobatics? Night Slash?

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#40158: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:35:49 PM

Sceptile is the most likely grass starter, but Jiggs is a pseudo-lock and Mewtwo will likely receive higher priority. I can see 6 Pokemon slots, but I can't see 7.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40159: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:35:55 PM

I don't mind the split, even if it does feel sorta weird in the same way having Mario and Dr. Mario as separate roster slots felt a little weird. It also kinda killed Ivysaur and Squirtle, presumably.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:36:55 PM by Anomalocaris20

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#40160: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:36:18 PM

Kinda wish they'd just cut Zero Suit Samus to be honest.

Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40161: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:36:40 PM

[up]x4 If most people barely used Smash Balls, I doubt they cared for it with Samus.

[up]Why? ZSS is Awesome.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:38:14 PM by Randomness4

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40162: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:37:20 PM

[up][up]The rocket boots are kinda awesome, though, even if they are heel-shaped.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:37:35 PM by Pulse

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40163: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:37:36 PM

Zero Suit Samus got more use than regular Samus thanks to regular Samus being pretty terribad in Brawl.

[up]I think it's a fair compromise, making the heels actually a practical tool rather than just "fashion". Sorta reminds me of the long-fall boots from Portal.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:38:13 PM by Anomalocaris20

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#40164: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:37:50 PM

I cared for it with Samus, she was my main next to Snake but as soon as she lost the suit I was awful with her.

Oh really when?
beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40165: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:38:16 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]I don't mind Sheik as much when you consider that she's technically a different Zelda than the other one, so it's not really different from having both Link and Toon Link.

...Although, I got nothing for Samus. At least she's not a clone.

[up][up][up][up]I've never gotten the impression that most people don't use Smash Balls at all. Competitive players, sure, but they're not really the majority.

[up]Yeah, my brother has mained Samus since Melee and wasn't a big fan of having to switch to another character after using his Final Smash either...Admittedly that's the source for most of the complaints about that mechanic I've heard, but yeah.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:41:14 PM by beorc

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Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40166: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:39:25 PM

Now you have no worries then...I'm not just speaking about the competitive crowd.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:41:00 PM by Randomness4

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#40167: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:40:23 PM

If it weren't for Sonic, Final Smashes would be balanced enough for casual play.

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Randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40168: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:41:28 PM

No they wouldn't.

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Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#40169: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:41:29 PM

I'm going to be frank since people keep coddling you: Anom your complaining is getting tiring. While it's understandable that you want the WiiU version to be special the fact that the roster is going to be released shouldn't negate that since if it's anything like the 3DS version it will have its own unique differences. And even taking the roster into account if you've been online you were going to get spoiled for either version regardless of which one came out first.

enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#40170: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:42:56 PM

jet boots are great. Not forcing the switch on Final Smash is great.

this version of ZSS looks as though Samus decided to mod her suit after Zebes so that if she ever lost the suit again, she could kick ass instead of Solid Snaking it.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#40171: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:43:03 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up][up]YES. I'm glad I'm not alone on comparing them to the Long-Fall Boots.

Enlong: Night Slash seems like a fair one, as does Acrobatics. Was Night Slash the one where the screen cut to black before having a red cut across the background?

edited 8th Apr '14 6:43:31 PM by NesClassic

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#40172: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:43:15 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]And do you have any evidence that most people who play the game turn off the Smash Ball?

edited 8th Apr '14 6:43:23 PM by beorc

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#40173: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:44:34 PM

What is Greninja's Final Smash supposed to be, anyway? Acrobatics? Night Slash?

Ragnarok.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#40174: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:44:38 PM

@Chariot: No, only if there were a pre-release leak like with Pokemon X and Y. Assuming I got the game on release day, I see no reason I'd wind up spoiled unless I went somewhere with no spoiler policy or specifically looked up spoilers.

Heck, were it not for Brawl coming out earlier in Japan, I'd probably have gone into Brawl completely unspoiled thanks to getting it two days before its official release by chance.

[up]I was thinking the same thing, actually. It DOES look like Ragnarok.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:45:27 PM by Anomalocaris20

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enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#40175: Apr 8th 2014 at 6:44:41 PM

[up][up][up][up] it is.

edited 8th Apr '14 6:45:15 PM by enlong

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