Melee's Link was still based a bit upon OOT, and his general clothing from all games as is. Young Link actually has at least one item only his MM version can use, the Bow with Fire Arrows.
As for Dr. Mario, Sakurai believed his abilities to be different enough from Mario to justify a different character slot instead of a costume. It's possible we could see the Doc back again, but I doubt it unless it's still with his own moveset. There's not much point to Dr. Mario if he can't use Megavitamins. They're his signature item, at least.
The only time there was a hint of "multiple characters on a screen are an issue" was when Sakurai said he had some trouble implementing Ice Climbers. I'm not sure this is an issue any longer, seeing as how both Rosalina & Luma and Olimiar & Pikmin exist. I don't think it'll be a problem; It's really just removing some of his old aspects that would help. By removing the Elemental Rock–Paper–Scissors, that's less damage they take, so less to program in.
edited 30th Mar '14 3:08:26 PM by Irene
Shadow?I have to wonder if Dr. Mario was added because there was like a week left of development and Sakurai was all "Hey, we totally still have time to add another character, guys! Let's see, uh, we could have, um, Mario...without a hat? Y'know, like in...like in Dr. Mario! Yes! He could shoot pills! Brilliant! Hahaha, get to work!"
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Nah, I didn't think multiple characters on screen would be an issue; I just meant that they're three characters with different movesets, so that's triple the time spent on hitboxes and animations and the like, compared to a standalone character.
edited 30th Mar '14 3:15:31 PM by beorc
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That's not too far from the truth. Sakurai had extra time after finishing the inital Melee roster, so he decided between the choice of having King Dedede as a non-clone character or having 6 clones. Sakurai chose the latter and that is how we got Ganondorf, Falco, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Roy and Young Link over Dedede.
He was added with the rest of the clones. It was either all 6, or King Dedede, not counting any other rumors. Both Snake and Sonic were asked for, so who knows, they could've gotten in if we didn't get clones. -shrugs-
And I don't know if he was truly last minute; no more than the others. He did have more than just aesthetic differences too. His Megavitamins have a different effect, his damage output, speed, and jumping aren't the same. It's mostly just his animations and his voice that are identical. Generally, every clone(save the voices) are different in many ways save more or less the animations only.
Shadow?What music or items do you wanna have in the new game.
Call me butter, because I am on a roll! 3ds friend code: 5258-0885-3903 Wii U: Bowser CharizardThe source I found was entirely unreliable, so it's probably not worth linking. It just listed some past ideas, like a Pokemon Trainer, mentioning there was almost no viable Pokemon from the movies(which would explain why he went with Pichu, who at least could fight due to being a clone and had a movie appearance), that Wario and Wolf weren't added because he didn't want to make them clones, which does add up at least to Brawl, since he made them quite unique compared to most characters.
Here's the link.
I'm still taking it with a large grain of salt, even if some happened to add up.
Hmm. At least, there's another post further down with a lot of information that seems quite well-sourced. I think the most interesting thing there is:
I wonder if he'd consider the Nintendo Land game to count...
edited 30th Mar '14 3:55:13 PM by beorc
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edited 30th Mar '14 3:56:59 PM by TargetmasterJoe
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Well, I think he actually means a game in that series, not just a Takamaru appearance. Much like when we got a Punch-Out!! game before we got Little Mac.(I am not saying that PO game is the reason we got Little Mac, just saying that situation might be what he means before he would add the Samurai).
edited 30th Mar '14 3:58:05 PM by Irene
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Better yet, he just reveals ten random characters, some frequently requested and some that nobody wanted, and tells us that five of them are actually playable, but we don't know which ones. Now that would definitely cause the internet to explode.
Got 'im. He's Kurt Russel.
edited 30th Mar '14 4:14:16 PM by beorc
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I like Pokemon Trainer, but admittedly I think he's the first character I'd cut, since he's three characters in one and I'd imagine takes much more time to implement compared to others. If they had the choice between including Pokemon Trainer or adding another new character or two, I'd go with the new characters personally.
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