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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39051: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:03:45 PM

I like Pokemon Trainer, but admittedly I think he's the first character I'd cut, since he's three characters in one and I'd imagine takes much more time to implement compared to others. If they had the choice between including Pokemon Trainer or adding another new character or two, I'd go with the new characters personally.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39052: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:04:51 PM

Melee's Link was still based a bit upon OOT, and his general clothing from all games as is. Young Link actually has at least one item only his MM version can use, the Bow with Fire Arrows.

As for Dr. Mario, Sakurai believed his abilities to be different enough from Mario to justify a different character slot instead of a costume. It's possible we could see the Doc back again, but I doubt it unless it's still with his own moveset. There's not much point to Dr. Mario if he can't use Megavitamins. They're his signature item, at least.

[up] The only time there was a hint of "multiple characters on a screen are an issue" was when Sakurai said he had some trouble implementing Ice Climbers. I'm not sure this is an issue any longer, seeing as how both Rosalina & Luma and Olimiar & Pikmin exist. I don't think it'll be a problem; It's really just removing some of his old aspects that would help. By removing the Elemental Rock–Paper–Scissors, that's less damage they take, so less to program in.

edited 30th Mar '14 3:08:26 PM by Irene

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#39053: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:08:29 PM

Ocarina of Time was still the last appearance of Adult Link when Melee was released.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39054: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:08:44 PM

I have to wonder if Dr. Mario was added because there was like a week left of development and Sakurai was all "Hey, we totally still have time to add another character, guys! Let's see, uh, we could have, um, Mario...without a hat? Y'know, like in...like in Dr. Mario! Yes! He could shoot pills! Brilliant! Hahaha, get to work!"

[up][up]Nah, I didn't think multiple characters on screen would be an issue; I just meant that they're three characters with different movesets, so that's triple the time spent on hitboxes and animations and the like, compared to a standalone character.

edited 30th Mar '14 3:15:31 PM by beorc

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KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#39055: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:17:25 PM

[up]That's not too far from the truth. Sakurai had extra time after finishing the inital Melee roster, so he decided between the choice of having King Dedede as a non-clone character or having 6 clones. Sakurai chose the latter and that is how we got Ganondorf, Falco, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Roy and Young Link over Dedede.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39056: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:18:34 PM

He was added with the rest of the clones. It was either all 6, or King Dedede, not counting any other rumors. Both Snake and Sonic were asked for, so who knows, they could've gotten in if we didn't get clones. -shrugs-

And I don't know if he was truly last minute; no more than the others. He did have more than just aesthetic differences too. His Megavitamins have a different effect, his damage output, speed, and jumping aren't the same. It's mostly just his animations and his voice that are identical. Generally, every clone(save the voices) are different in many ways save more or less the animations only.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#39057: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:28:33 PM

What music or items do you wanna have in the new game.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39058: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:28:34 PM

It was either all 6, or King Dedede, not counting any other rumors.

Could you link to a source for this? I can't find one.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#39059: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:33:43 PM

[up][up][up] Character development is essentially a spreadsheet. To create a "clone" character, all you would have to do is tweak the values on the spreadsheet, as opposed to having to come up with an entirely new set of values for a new character.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39060: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:34:19 PM

The source I found was entirely unreliable, so it's probably not worth linking. It just listed some past ideas, like a Pokemon Trainer, mentioning there was almost no viable Pokemon from the movies(which would explain why he went with Pichu, who at least could fight due to being a clone and had a movie appearance), that Wario and Wolf weren't added because he didn't want to make them clones, which does add up at least to Brawl, since he made them quite unique compared to most characters.

Here's the link. I'm still taking it with a large grain of salt, even if some happened to add up.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39061: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:54:54 PM

Hmm. At least, there's another post further down with a lot of information that seems quite well-sourced. I think the most interesting thing there is:

Sakurai mentions that if there was ever another Nazo no Murasame-jou game, its protagonist, Takamaru, would probably get into Smash. This was said about eight or nine years ago and the closest thing was the GBA port of the game, so it didn't work out.

I wonder if he'd consider the Nintendo Land game to count...

edited 30th Mar '14 3:55:13 PM by beorc

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39062: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:55:37 PM

Anybody think the internet will implode if Sakurai's April Fools' joke turns out to be Snake as he appears in Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes?

edited 30th Mar '14 3:56:59 PM by TargetmasterJoe

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#39063: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:56:17 PM

I'd cry if that turned out to be fake.

Oh really when?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#39064: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:56:22 PM

Wrong Snake.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#39065: Mar 30th 2014 at 3:57:49 PM

[up][up][up] Maybe.

[up][up][up][up] Well, I think he actually means a game in that series, not just a Takamaru appearance. Much like when we got a Punch-Out!! game before we got Little Mac.(I am not saying that PO game is the reason we got Little Mac, just saying that situation might be what he means before he would add the Samurai).

edited 30th Mar '14 3:58:05 PM by Irene

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39066: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:03:01 PM

[up][up]Clearly, Snake will be playable but all of his costumes will be different Snakes. Including an actual snake. And Kurt Russel. And which one is the default is randomized every time you enter the character select screen, so there is no one true Snake.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39068: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:04:47 PM

Sakurai should just reveal a bunch of villains on April first to make people freak out about whether or not the new ones are confirmed or if he's just trolling.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#39070: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:09:29 PM

[up][up]Better yet, he just reveals ten random characters, some frequently requested and some that nobody wanted, and tells us that five of them are actually playable, but we don't know which ones. Now that would definitely cause the internet to explode.

[up]Got 'im. He's Kurt Russel.

edited 30th Mar '14 4:14:16 PM by beorc

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#39071: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:10:31 PM

[up][up]The original Snake?

edited 30th Mar '14 4:10:52 PM by Odd1

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#39072: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:26:57 PM

wild mass guessApril Fools will have a picture of Palutena, Ridley, K. Rool, and Isaac in a battle with each other. The caption will be "Only one can qualify for Smash." The next day Sakurai reveals all four are newcomers.wild mass guess

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#39073: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:35:19 PM

Another thing, why do people want to see K. Rool so badly?

Because Donkey Kong fans?

I'm just not really sure how he could work as a playable character.

edited 30th Mar '14 4:35:41 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#39074: Mar 30th 2014 at 4:46:32 PM

I'm imagining him to be rather bouncy. Even bouncier than Dedede.

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