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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39026: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:11:38 PM

Aw. That's to bad. He is my main fighter.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#39027: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:12:55 PM

I do hope they make the big guys more balanced this time. I like playing as Bowser.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#39028: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:14:20 PM

My sister always played as Bowser in Coin Match. She loved using his down-A smash to get a shower of the copper coins, though I don't remember if that got her many more.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39029: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:17:14 PM

I usually try not to play as him to much so I don't become predictable. So I like to play as characters like wario or warrior.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#39030: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:17:34 PM

..."Warrior"?

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#39031: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:17:51 PM

Meant to say falco and somehow spelled warrior

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#39032: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:19:28 PM

Falco is fun. You know, even though his moves look more similar, I'd argue that Falco plays more differently from Fox than Wolf does, since Falco is an aerial fighter while Fox and Wolf are both ground fighters. It makes a huge difference.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39033: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:20:49 PM

I don't know why but I always prefer playing as dr. Mario than Mario when playing melee.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39034: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:24:34 PM

I also believe falco is far more fun to play as than fox. I enjoy characters with a meteor smash.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#39035: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:28:37 PM

I admire people who know what meteor smashes are. :p

Some people just call them "spikes". Which is quippier and quicker to say, but don't sound as technical.

In the first Smash I loved using Ness's. Something about his second jump made it look so stylish.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39036: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:35:58 PM

I love using Yoshi's meteor smash. Probably because he hits people with his face to force them to plummet to their doom.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#39037: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:36:08 PM

There is a difference. Meteor Smashes can be cancelled by the person getting hit if they press the jump button at the right time. Spikes (i.e. Marth's d-air, Wizard's Foot) can't.

Why such a difference exists is anyone's guess.

edited 30th Mar '14 1:37:14 PM by Nap1100

RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#39038: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:49:25 PM

In a hit-and-run game like Smash, it's hard for big guys to get far. But I'm still hoping that Bowser and his fellow heavyweights get a significant buff and are at least viable or even playable.

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#39039: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:56:57 PM

Wizard's Foot is my favorite.

It's also a funny name. It sounds like a magical version of athlete's foot.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39040: Mar 30th 2014 at 1:58:31 PM

I like just pressing a as ganondorf. It's like he's wearing a jolly buzzer and slapping people with it.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#39041: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:08:48 PM

Heavies would probably be a little more viable if they had armored moves, which is why I'm confused at some of the light ones getting super armor in 4 (Really, Pit? Mac at least makes a little sense since he's meant to be heavy rushdown).

Bowser got a metric ton of armored moves in Project M, maybe the devs might want to take a page from there.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#39042: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:10:49 PM

Yoshi's meteor smash is fun to use cause he gives them a big nose punt and then flutters back to the stage. [lol]

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39043: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:11:01 PM

I like bowser's new kicking move but it would look kinda weird to see giga bowser doing it.

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#39044: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:11:41 PM

Bowser is probably getting buffed in 4, considering he looks way more agile. Plus dat drop kick. cool

I think Sakurai mentioned in a POTD that DK is stronger also.

edited 30th Mar '14 2:11:50 PM by Vgm3

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#39045: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:14:59 PM

I think Charizard should return without the trainer. It always made me a little sad to see my favorite Pokemon looking exhausted from just being there when king dedede can run around forever without breaking a sweat.

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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#39046: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:35:46 PM

I just want the Pokemon Trainer back with the stamina gimmick removed. Your pokemon don't suddenly lose strength when you leave them in battle for a long time, and Smash doesn't do something to force you switch between Sheik and Zelda.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#39047: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:42:10 PM

I think Magnus should be in the game. All the attacks he has in kid Icarus could work really well in smash bros.

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RavenKingSage MY NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
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#39048: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:43:44 PM

I know I'm alone on this, but I don't like transformation characters. To me they are a waste of space and time, and if you're going to implement an entire new playstyle, why not just make another character slot? Or give that slot to a different character that people want to see?

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#39049: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:49:07 PM

Well, don't forget the Elemental Rock–Paper–Scissors as well. Ivysaur took extra damage from fire, for instance. All 3 did not come off well.

The first two, Stamina, and forced switching, were just that, to encourage using a balanced team. This doesn't bother me that much. But the ERPS? That was just pointless and gave an interesting character an extra set of weaknesses... just because. No other Pokemon character got affected that way. I'd at least remove that.

I'd like to keep the concept of Trainer with at least 3 Pokemon, though. Another idea, maybe, is that the player could toggle Forced Switching and Stamina? Maybe not in Single Player, but in Multi Player only. I know getting rid of all three of these would essentially buff the character to be fairly balanced, but the Forced Switching is probably the only one worth keeping. If only because it keeps the main concept of having a team of Pokemon in tact. You switch out when one gets K.O.'d. Stamina was just pointless and only hurt you. You can also switch out fast and easily with little effort anyway.

Shadow?
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#39050: Mar 30th 2014 at 2:49:11 PM

I don't know how they'd be a waste of space...they'd be in the same character.

Zelda is Sheik, and you can't really separate that. Pokemon Trainer got to keep all his Pokemon to himself, and splitting them up into three different fighters would seem rather scattered. And Samus is still Samus inside her suit, so you can't split her either.

Mario and Dr. Mario could have been one fighter, but Mario is pretty iconic on his own. And normal Link is a totally different Link than Toon Link.

Brawl Link looked like Twilight Princess's Link and 64 Link looked like Ocarina of Time Link, but I wasn't ever sure who Melee Link was...

edited 30th Mar '14 2:49:32 PM by Keybreak

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