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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#37726: Mar 5th 2014 at 5:32:10 PM

We should have MY BIG GAY DANCE! a poll.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#37727: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:24:17 PM

Let's see...if we did a poll, the characters I can think of that come up often are King K Rool, Ridley, Palutena, Medusa, Krystal, Chrom, Robin, Isaac, Saki, Ray, Lip, Takamaru, Shulk, Pac-Man, Simon Belmont...

edited 5th Mar '14 6:24:34 PM by beorc

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#37728: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:37:46 PM

Poll Miiverse and about half of it would be dominated by Goku, Flappy Bird, Shrek, and other characters whom have no business being in Smash instead.

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ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#37729: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:37:58 PM

[up][up]Dang, that's a whole lotta characters...

[up][up][up][up]Interestingly, my initial prediction was also 48 characters, 4 cuts. Strange minds think alike I suppose... wonder if that rumor has any grain of truth?

[up]Shrek... Shrek? SHREK!?!?

edited 5th Mar '14 6:38:29 PM by ConstipatedWaffle

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#37730: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:39:17 PM

[up][up]That's Miiverse, not here.

ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#37731: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:40:11 PM

[up]They did specify Miiverse...

[down]LUIGI WAS THE ONE WITH THE L ON HIS FOREHEAD

IT MAKES TOO MUCH SENSE

edited 5th Mar '14 6:42:00 PM by ConstipatedWaffle

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#37733: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:43:13 PM

[up][up]But that's other forum's stuff, and we should try to avoid bashing the opinions of people who aren't here.

[up]We could use some change... COIN BATTLE CONFIRMED TO RETURN!

ConstipatedWaffle For The Most Ridley-culous Cause from The Edge Of Insanity Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#37734: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:46:14 PM

[up]Right, whoops... I almost went into Fan Dumb territory there for a minute...

This isn't as big of a topic, but is there any character that you peoples see pretty likely that you really don't want in? Like Pac-Man for me... I loved Pac-Man World and all, but I don't think the Smash series is really the greatest series for him...

[down]Eh, maybe I'm overthinking things (probably) but I see that more as like a "Namco-Bandai won't get a lot of characters just because they're helping" instead of "We won't be having any Namco-Bandai characters in the game."

edited 5th Mar '14 7:04:02 PM by ConstipatedWaffle

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37735: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:00:33 PM

I don't see him as likely. Sakurai said he isn't giving special priority to Namdai characters, yes?

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#37736: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:03:33 PM

Correct.

Now, if a Bamco character is in, Pac-Man is pretty much their Namco-side Mascot(no idea what their Bandai-side one is, though), so he has a very high chance based upon that information.

He's likely of Namco-Bandai's choices, not as a third party in general.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37737: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:10:56 PM

And I don't see Sakurai picking a Namdai character if they didn't have extensive history with Nintendo. After all, Smash is a celebration of Nintendo characters, and those third parties tha do get in are special cases that still sort of come back around to that first point. Pac Man is many things, but a major figure in Nintendo's history? I don't really think so.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#37738: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:15:23 PM

I wonder if there was a character put in due to contacts rather than Nintendo-relevancy...

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37739: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:19:00 PM

Kind of.

Nintendo EAD worked on a (previously till Mobile Phones) exclusive called Pac-Man Versus. Most Third Party companies don't have this. Square slightly has something with Super Mario RPG.

He has some important notes in Nintendo with specifically that, which has been remade for more than one Nintendo system too. Tales of has some history with Nintendo, but Symphonia was a temporary exclusive, after the PS 2 upgrade came along. However, there is the fact Lloyd Irving got into the Soul Calibur Legends exclusive as well.

That said, my thought is that Pac-Man, Tales of, and Soul Calibur are the three most notable Nintendo and Namco(I mean related to Nintendo, not made by them, to be clear) series. As for Bandai's side... um, other than the Digimon exclusives? Well, there might be old Power Rangers games, I guess? There's some other non-Anime/Manga Bandai series too, though. Boktai, right?

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#37740: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:24:39 PM

[up]I thought Boktai was Konami. ^_^;;

On the Bandai side... Mametchi? Yeah, I don't know either.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#37741: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:26:12 PM

Just saw this article, apparently Sakurai said the new SSB will have the same roster size as Brawl did. So presumably, any new characters would also mean someone getting cut.

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#37742: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:27:53 PM

Two year old article, and he'd have to drop a lot of characters considering the new ones that are in.

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#37743: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:28:30 PM

That could mean everything from "Brawl's roster was the limit of what's feasible" to "we've already reached the feasible limit of characters (the specific number, I am not saying) in our work on Smash 4, and have now shifted focus to refinement for the remainder of development time."

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#37744: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:29:57 PM

@Enlong: Well, maybe. But the interviewer didn't interpret it that way.

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#37745: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:30:22 PM

39 is a number he did seem to like back then, but I expect more than that now. With Namco-Bandai, I think he'll be able to balance around 40-50 well enough. I don't expect less than 40 total playable characters(including transformations).

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37746: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:31:41 PM

So Sakurai was talking to this Thomas East guy?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37747: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:39:36 PM

Smash Bros Wii U may not feature more characters

"In terms of quantity, we've probably already reached a limit."

He did not say it'd be the same size anyway. Just it might be that. And twice it mentions that's just a possibility. Also;

Speaking with Nintendo Power, Sakurai explained why Smash Bros Wii U might not feature a greater number of characters.

This pretty is saying it's hypothetical the entire time. It's pretty clear it's just a "maybe we'll do it that way", but it's not some definite number. He also mentions that Namco-Bandai might give them new ideas.

...I do not understand where "The size of SSB For's Roster will be the same size as Brawl's" is being gotten from in that article at all. Just "it could be the same size" at best. Also, the interview itself is pretty odd as it sometimes says "same size" and "probably/maybe the same size". It's really an unreliable one due to contradicting information. It should just make one statement and support it properly. :/

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37748: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:42:30 PM

Not to defend the article's interpretation, but sometimes people do sometimes write stuff that doesn't properly convey their meaning, or unintentionally use inconsistent levels of certainty in their grammar, without an intent behind it.

edited 5th Mar '14 7:42:39 PM by Enlong

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#37749: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:42:47 PM

...I do not understand where "The size of SSB For's Roster will be the same size as Brawl's" is being gotten from in that article at all.

Don't expect Super Smash Bros Wii U to feature more characters on the roster than were in Smash Bros Brawl.

Right at the top. :V

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#37750: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:06:14 PM

That still leaves the possibility of fewer characters.

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