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paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#37676: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:29:00 AM

[up][up][up] Wonderful 101 is in the same boat as Sin & Punishment: Developed by a 3rd party (Treasure in S&P's case), published and owned by Nintendo. I use that example because I've been playing the Wonderful 101 recently so it's the freshest example in my head.

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#37677: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:32:32 AM

Hmm. That does negate possible Rare-type issues probably. Still does nothing to negate "Nintendo really screwed it over themselves, too".

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#37678: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:38:41 AM

[up] OK gonna be a total devils advocate, but the Wonderful 101 is a tough sell. It's a bright flashy superhero game where all the characters are chibifiesd and cute, but it's also T rated, filled with sexual innuendo and mild swearing, and at certain points, even on its easiest difficulty, can be hard as balls. Something that contrasts itself that much would be hard to advertise on any level.

Certainly doesn't mean they couldn't have TRIED any level of advertising outside of that 7 minute Nintendo direct.

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#37679: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:43:19 AM

I didn't even hear about it until it got discussed here.

On this thread.

While discussing why it might deserve to get a rep.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#37680: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:49:45 AM

Putting in a W101 character (lets just say Wonder Red for the sake of speculation) would be a great "backdoor" way of working in 3rd party representation, like "It's a representative of Platinum games, but the Wonderful 101 counts as a Nintendo IP, so he's not a guest fighter!" kind of thing.

edited 5th Mar '14 6:49:59 AM by paperbritt

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#37681: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:49:53 AM

[up][up][up]Compare Viewtiful Joe, by the same game's makers, which got a tv show and much other publicity, and lasted 4 games. Or Okami, which got less publicity than Viewtiful Joe, but seems to have gotten more than this. Also, the page I linked says Nintendo limited shipments of the game in Japan? I see you're playing DA, but I don't see your justifications as being strong enough. Thank you for trying to let me see an alternative, though.

[up][up],[up]I did just suggest Wonder-Red and link to the game's page a few pages ago, when writing out who would be on my bingo sheet if I ever did one.

edited 5th Mar '14 6:50:55 AM by wanderlustwarrior

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#37682: Mar 5th 2014 at 6:53:00 AM

[up] Viewtiful Joe you have a point on, but most of Okami's press came after it became a cult classic. Who knows, maybe putting Wonder Red in Smash would have the same response to Wonderful 101.

edited 5th Mar '14 6:55:10 AM by paperbritt

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#37683: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:00:56 AM

Viewtiful Joe had a TV show?

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#37684: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:03:49 AM

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#37685: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:04:15 AM

I don't think W101 is owned by Nintendo. I know for sure Sin And Punishment is, but I think W101 is a fully owned property of Platinum.

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#37686: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:08:52 AM

A lot of people (including me) strongly feel that she's just an overshilled Creator's Pet. If she actually had a bigger role story-wise to make her... not a Peach Pallete Swap, I'd be fine, but...

While I disagree fervently, I won't continue this discussion. This thread gets sidetracked enough as it is.

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#37687: Mar 5th 2014 at 7:51:34 AM

@paperbritt: Yeah, Wonderful 101 is too mature to be a kids' game but too bright, colorful, and silly to really appeal to the audience T-rated games usually gun for. (Difficulty is not usually a factor in ESRB ratings, otherwise New Super Mario Bros. Wii and U would be M for sure.) It's in this weird gray area that appeals to a very specific audience, which may be responsible for the game's failure at market.

edited 5th Mar '14 7:53:15 AM by Midna

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#37688: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:02:19 AM

Pic of the day is just confirmation of Dedede's down special still damaging him if held too long.

Also that the Sky K.O. Uppercut is evidently stronger.

edited 5th Mar '14 9:10:33 AM by Grounder

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#37689: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:43:24 AM

[up] Wait, when was Blaziken confirmed?

Only sometimes posts
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#37690: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:49:04 AM

Must be a name of a move. No idea what it is. Could be Little Mac's Up B, but I don't think he confirmed its name at all(specifically in reference to Little Mac), so who knows. It does fit how it works.

Shadow?
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#37691: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:52:05 AM

@Grounder: Wait, "Sky Uppercut"? The text says "K.O. Uppercut", which I took to refer to Mac's charge-punch.

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#37692: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:52:50 AM

Where is the picture with the caption? Could people actually link to those?

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#37694: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:54:45 AM

Mac uses a spiraling uppercut a few time in his debut video that very much looks like an Up Special.

But yeah, K.O. Uppercut would have to beat Jet Hammer just by definition of what it is.

edited 5th Mar '14 8:55:39 AM by Pulse

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#37695: Mar 5th 2014 at 8:55:15 AM

Maybe that's the name in another language? Grounder, where are you from? Probably should link to the post you mean, since I have a feeling this is purely just a language barrier thing.

It does say K.O. Uppercut in the Japanese and American updates, though.

[up] Unless the Captions are different among languages, Sakurai did mean his Neutral B, the K.O. Uppercut. And probably meant that too regardless.

edited 5th Mar '14 8:59:27 AM by Irene

Shadow?
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
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#37696: Mar 5th 2014 at 9:09:48 AM

I was remembering the text wrong, my apologies.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37697: Mar 5th 2014 at 9:10:32 AM

Ah, okay.

That happens.

That'd be funny if that became the name of his Up B, though, which is fitting, imo.

Shadow?
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#37698: Mar 5th 2014 at 9:13:59 AM

Maybe it's the uppercut move he does after building up the KO meter.

Too subtle?

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#37699: Mar 5th 2014 at 9:30:03 AM

Come on, you don't need to be sarcastic just because someone admitted to misreading something.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#37700: Mar 5th 2014 at 9:49:31 AM

I kinda wish all characters had a sort of Limit Break like Little Mac has in the newest game. They wouldn't be out-and-out screen-wiping Final Smashes, but really quick, strong attacks.

The problem would be finding an input to make it a universal feature, though I believe a Shield+B input could work for that.

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