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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#37476: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:45:44 AM

If i may, in Japan they often refer to elderly men or women as "Jiisantachi" (the tachi being plural) or "Baasantachi". Likely the Japanese version says "Baasantachi Kotake to Koume..." so one English way to translate it is to call them Grannies, but that would have no implication that they were actually grandmothers in-universe.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#37477: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:46:16 AM

I recall hearing that the German translation Ocarina had Koume and Kotake's Boss Subtitles name them "Killa Ohmaz", which literally translates to "Killer Grannies"

Anyway, I'm saying stage hazard. They're being shown on Gerudo Valley, and Sakurai's been pretty consistent at naming characters as Assist Trophies if they appear in a picture of the day (with comments).

edited 3rd Mar '14 7:48:07 AM by Enlong

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37478: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:49:58 AM

He has not been consistent on naming Stage Hazards, so that doesn't really count. He has not been consistent with naming Assist Trophies, though. Starfy is thought as one due to his appearance, but he didn't actually say it when he showed up at all.

He's pretty inconsistent at naming anything but when a playable Character shows up and that's it.

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#37479: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:51:03 AM

Now that I think about it, it seems like it's been quite a while since any new stages were revealed...

I think the last one was Rainbow Road, which was back in December.

edited 3rd Mar '14 7:52:41 AM by beorc

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#37480: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:53:05 AM

I'm pretty sure the fact that they only appear on Gerudo Valley confirms them for stage hazard.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#37481: Mar 3rd 2014 at 7:56:50 AM

I'd previously made a suggestion on how the Blue Shell might work as a usable item (that it gets thrown into the background, then finds the current leader and hits them for heavy damage, like the Dragoon, but not necessarily a KO). Another thought just crossed my mind:
What if the Green, Red and Blue Shells were combined into one item, the Mario Kart item box? the first person to pass through it while not holding an item (if they are, it disappears) picks up a shell, which is generally either Green or Red. However, the worse you're doing, the more likely it is you'd get Blue, and if you're in last place, it's a very good chance you'd get Blue. It's a fair way to allow catch-ups without enforcing the Rubber-Band A.I. of Mario Kart or the overpoweredness of pity Final Smashes.

Reposting possible characters so that it's in a page I can remember.

I think I'm going to put together a bingo board.

Sure Bets: Ness, Meta Knight, Captain Falcon, Wario, Yoshi
Surprised: ROB, Mr Game And Watch, Ice Climbers, Ganondorf, Falco
Probably: Jigglypuff, Ike, Palutena, Pac Man, Snake
Might: Dark Hunter / Metroid Prime, Ridley, Isaac, Mewtwo, Ray
Long Shots: Agumon, Wonder-Red, Shanoa, Isa & Kachi

Alternate long shots: Wreck It Ralph, Shantae, Tails, Simon Belmont, Avatar, Travis Touchdown, Bayonetta, King K. Rool, Krystal, etc.

edited 15th Mar '14 11:44:58 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#37482: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:01:33 AM

There's been that one time he failed to mention a character was an assist trophy when a picture involving them was the picture of the day, yes.

That said, the other options are that Starfy is a stage hazard on a stage that has nothing to do with him, or that he's a playable character shown in picture of the day with no fanfare. Perhaps Sakurai underestimated the fanbase's ability to go after everything that's not conclusively proven to be completely impossible.

My thinking is that if a character who was not previously playable is he subject of the update, and doesn't come with a reveal trailer and newcomer page, they're probably not a new playable character. Which leaves Assist Trophy or stage hazard, in my mind. So it seems to me that the absence of explicitly naming them an Assist Trophy (a practice that has so far had just Starfy as an exception) is a point in favor of stage hazard. As is the character showing up on a related stage.

I know this wouldn't exactly satisfy Miles Edgeworth, but it's logical enough for me to go on. Okay?

edited 3rd Mar '14 8:06:43 AM by Enlong

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#37483: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:04:14 AM

Can we stop making assumptions based upon one screenshot, please?

For all we know they are an Assist rather than a Hazard.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37484: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:06:28 AM

[up][up] Point being that he didn't confirm anything but playable characters at best.(assuming Starfy isn't one, respectively). What stage did he show up on?

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#37485: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:07:48 AM

Dr. Wily's Castle.

edited 3rd Mar '14 8:08:21 AM by Enlong

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37486: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:09:11 AM

Ah. Probably Assist Trophy then. Or maybe he returned the Weak Enemy idea(I think they were dropped for Assist Trophies?). Who knows.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37487: Mar 3rd 2014 at 8:11:15 AM

It's enough for me to confidently say Assist Trophy, myself. But do what you gotta do.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#37488: Mar 3rd 2014 at 9:22:17 AM

You know what'd be awesome?

Having Proto Man as an Assist Trophy.

And when he gets summoned, you get to hear that little whistle tune that plays whenever he shows up in the Mega Man games. Anyone know which tune I'm referring to?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#37490: Mar 3rd 2014 at 9:57:05 AM

[up]

Ha ha ha! You totally got me there! note 

...

But seriously, I'm not the only one around here who knows that I was referring to the Proto Man Whistle, am I?

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#37491: Mar 3rd 2014 at 9:59:33 AM

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37492: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:00:16 AM

I found it obvious too, Joe.

It's his iconic theme... to my knowledge, anyway.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#37493: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:05:27 AM

But seriously, I'm not the only one around here who knows that I was referring to the Proto Man Whistle, am I?
And when he gets summoned, you get to hear that little whistle tune that plays whenever he shows up in the Mega Man games.

I don't know. It's kind of confusing.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
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#37494: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:07:25 AM

Guys, sarcasm doesn't quite work on this one.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#37495: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:09:44 AM

I just don't get why you'd ask if people know what you're talking about when you said what you meant. Explicitly.

The like to Roe's theme was pretty clearly a joke.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37496: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:12:25 AM

I don't know, Mukora. Perhaps if you think that what you're describng isn't well-known enough to assume the people you're talking to know it? Or maybe if you're not sure you're describing it well? Or maybe if you're just trying not to make assumptions.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#37497: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:17:36 AM

I was not being sarcastic. I just happened to find it obvious due to my knowledge of the games.

I didn't expect everyone to know it, nor would I ever do so. Pretty assy to do, of course.

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#37498: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:28:02 AM

You know who else uses brooms? Janitors. Jan. Jan Jansen confirmed for Brawl
Jan?

Cam Jansen confirmed for Sm4sh.

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WaxingName from Everywhere Since: Oct, 2010
#37499: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:28:27 AM

That Hunger Games whistle was a joke (hence the [lol]). Of course I know about the Proto Man whistle.

Plus, here's a great cover:

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#37500: Mar 3rd 2014 at 10:36:52 AM

My only Megaman experience for the most part is the retraux game they released a few years ago, Egoraptor's Sequelitis video on X, playing a tiny bit of X and failing at it, Diabetus's riffing of an episode of the cartoon, and endless covers of music from 2.

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