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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36801: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:33:43 PM

...something I just realized.

Master Hand is the right hand that floats on the right.

Crazy Hand is the left hand that floats on the left/

If they were connected to some invisible body, that body wouldn't be behind the stage where Final Destination is apparently flying through, but where we are.

wild mass guessWE ARE THE HANDS!wild mass guess

Or the body is underneath the stage like some kind of evil hand puppeteer.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#36802: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:34:17 PM

According to Miyamoto, it's all just different acting roles for the characters.

But trying to forge an actual coherent story to Mario for reason aside from shits and giggles is pretty dumb.

[up]I always thought, since they're all toys, it was the hand of the kid and he was just trying to come up with his own final boss.

edited 23rd Feb '14 3:34:59 PM by OdieFromTheOZ

nyo ho ho
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#36803: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:36:46 PM

Mario has some continuity, and at best, there's multiple different canons due to sequels and such. Like the Paper Mario canon, etc.

Anyway, being huge isn't really a gimmick, unless you're a boss. While some games can work it in, having 4 players onscreen and multiple huge characters if often unwiedly.(Giant Mode is fun, but not great for tourneys or more serious play in general)

Ridley has to be scaled down to work in the game. I could see him floating or having a lot of disjointed hitboxes. On the other hand, if his tail has so much range, it should be hittable too to make up for it.

Shadow?
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36804: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:43:54 PM

@Odie Yes, but if they're his hands, then the question is where he is.

Unless he's got his hands behind his back, then he'd have to be either under the stage or in front of it to keep them at their neutral position.

Of course, since they can spin around and go flying off into the background, they're probably not connected at all. At least to anything with humanoid arms.

@Irene Nuts to serious play. I want me some Mega Flower Metal Reflect Light Fast Fixed Camera fighting.

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OdieFromTheOZ KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
KING OF EXPLODO KILLS
#36805: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:48:43 PM

[up]Behind the camera?

nyo ho ho
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#36806: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:49:00 PM

[up][up]We are in the Kid's imagination zone and we are playing as the toys in what ever scenario the kid is thinking of in imagination zone. If the hands are disconnected, that means they are suppose to be that way, we can't see what's actually happening.

edited 23rd Feb '14 3:49:28 PM by randomness4

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36807: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:52:53 PM

@Odie Yes. tongue

Eh, prolonged WMG-ing.

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#36808: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:57:04 PM

@Keybreak's realization: Huh. I never noticed that. Good catch.

@this image: that's what I was suggesting when I gave the size I could see him at. Unless he was flying or something, he'd likely be hunched over too, giving him a build somewhat similar to Bowser's. The wing and tail hitboxes are still a bit of an issue... how are they done for Charizard, again?

edited 23rd Feb '14 3:57:49 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#36809: Feb 23rd 2014 at 3:57:11 PM

That's not what I mean, Keybreak.

One character shouldn't be naturally huge. At least for normal play. It makes them either too weak or too powerful in some ways. It's a general lack of balance.

It's fine if it's 1 on 1 with that, but 3 on 1(the 1 being the huge guy) becomes a nightmare. Don't get me wrong, it's fun sometimes, but not all the time.

I love the modes too. They're very fun. But I should be able to play Ridley at a decent size, somewhat bigger than Bowser, without issues.

[up] Charizard's tail is pretty small, like the size of Samus' armgun. It has a decent amount of range. His wings are fairly big, but not by much. Ridley has somewhat bigger wings and a ridiculously long tail.

edited 23rd Feb '14 3:58:33 PM by Irene

Shadow?
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#36810: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:00:47 PM

I still don't think we should be ready to give in to Character Roster Global Warming. Ridley could be slow and ungainly on the ground, but have a great air game.

edited 23rd Feb '14 4:02:00 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36811: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:01:00 PM

I know. I'm just talking out against FOX ONLY NO ITEMS FINAL DESTINATION type playing.

Which isn't bad either, but I like my variation.

If Ridley was to get in, then obviously he'd have to be small enough and not much bigger than Bowser if at all. ^When did that become a trope?

edited 23rd Feb '14 4:01:27 PM by Keybreak

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#36812: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:06:34 PM

I like having the option for all of them myself. smile

I also just happen to have a lot of trouble using Fox in Melee/Brawl. I'm not good with characters that have trouble hitting hard. I'm better with Falco/Wolf. Fox in 64, however...

Shadow?
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36813: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:11:51 PM

Fox was the first character I used in the first Super Smash Bros so I'm used to fast, high jumping characters with a lot of quick attacks.

Also Mario. Not too heavy, not too light, not too slow and not too fast. Ignoring that a lot of characters apparently outrank him, I always consider him the middle way.

Also the character for whom the franchise is named.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#36814: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:13:22 PM

I always use Samus or Snake.

Missiles for the win

Oh really when?
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#36815: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:15:33 PM

[up][up][up][up]I dunno. Seems to have been around for a while. It could use a better name, but I remember it under the current one. It's a useful trope.

Has anyone come up with a possible moveset for Ridley or Ray MK.whatever? Ridley could have some throws as aerials and an Up+B. I know moves for Dark Samus / Metroid Prime, Isaac and Isa & Kachi were suggested, but I don't remember where they were.

Fox was the first character I used, because reflector against Master Hand for the wind.

edited 23rd Feb '14 4:16:41 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#36816: Feb 23rd 2014 at 4:53:50 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up] Like nega Little Mac.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#36817: Feb 23rd 2014 at 5:52:09 PM

Wait, the Cloaking Device item got removed in Brawl? sad Why'd they do that?

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36818: Feb 23rd 2014 at 5:53:39 PM

It made it hard to fight when even YOU couldn't see yourself, and the computer could still see you anyway?

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#36819: Feb 23rd 2014 at 5:53:44 PM

Cause I kept accidently picking it up and kept falling off the stage

Oh really when?
Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#36820: Feb 23rd 2014 at 6:08:17 PM

Put it this way:

If a computer player gets a cloaking device, humans can't see them but they can see humans.

If a human player gets a cloaking device, they can't see themselves but the computer can.

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#36821: Feb 23rd 2014 at 6:35:21 PM

Well, I mean, technically you can, since unless your eyesight isn't very good, it's not too hard to pick out the distortion/ripply effect it gives off.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#36822: Feb 23rd 2014 at 7:05:03 PM

I got a laugh out of this.

And this.

I'm not really into shipping, but Little Mac and Wii Fit Trainer are made for each other.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#36823: Feb 23rd 2014 at 7:07:32 PM

Nonono.

Wii Fit Trainer and Doc Louis.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#36824: Feb 23rd 2014 at 7:10:11 PM

Ridley being huge and being designed to have an exception airgame would be hilarious. There's a reason why huge characters tend to have average speed at best.

edited 23rd Feb '14 7:10:32 PM by KnownUnknown

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#36825: Feb 23rd 2014 at 7:11:34 PM

Clearly the best ship is Wii Fit Trainer and Wii Fit Trainer.

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