I'm really glad popularity's not the only deciding factor for some of the cast - we'd never get the likes of Olimar, ROB, or G & W otherwise. From what I've seen, we'd get nothing but Fire Emblem and Golden Sun characters.
This probably has already been said, but a lot of folks are suggesting a lot of characters from really dark, gritty settings that I just don't see meshing well with smash at all. I know Snake made it in, but a big part of MGS is its zany, bizarre, and goofy elements contrasting the grim-dark. Just dropping Cloud into this would be even more bizarre, and it would set a precedent for more characters like that, which I guess some people would like but I can't imagine working all that well for the series.
I wanna hope that the hypothetical Square Enix rep is Neku, but every time Nintendo has a crossover with them (other than Fortune Street), they only use generic characters from Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest like Black/White Mage, Cactaur and Slime, so if not Neku or Gilgamesh, it would probably be one of them.
As far as World Ends being relevant, if Solo and Live Mix don't count, the main cast did end up in Kingdom Hearts 3D.
edited 19th Feb '14 9:02:02 PM by TechPowah
The New Age of Awesome is here! Not even the sky is the limit!Neku's still the long shot I'm holding out for, but I really just hope Falco makes it back in. Yoshi, C. Falcon, Ness, and Jiggs should be safe.
The very best, like no one ever was. Check out my Spider-Man fanfic here! [1]The six I mentioned should be the only ones in any danger unless Sakurai goes crazy. Snake has separate reasons from everyone else. Ike depends on whether FE gets 3 slots or not. PT just has a lot of variables, and while it's likely, Pokemon is not guaranteed 5 slots. Only one of Falco or Wolf is in danger, but again, I think they're safe. I see a lot of people saying Lucas is in danger, though I personally don't see why.
64 had 12 fighters, Melee had 13 newcomers for 25 character slots, and Brawl had 15 newcomers but dropped 5 Melee characters for 35 slots.
So far Smash 4 has 5 newcomers, so I'm hoping that it has 12 more newbies.
If possible, without any drops. Would be cool if they could make it an even 50 portraits, which would only require 10 more now.
Maths.
You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stayNeku's about the only Square Enix character that fits, while Cloud doesn't for the same reason that Snake doesn't really fit. The companies themselves don't see them as mainly being on other consoles, but Neku doesn't have that issue.
Good suggestion on him, and I'll add him to the list of characters I'd like to see.
For some reason, Nintendo loves the number 64, so it would be no surprise if that would be the Smash 4 roster size.
Well, that would require a whole bunch of newbies though, or returning veterans that got cut between melee and brawl.
edited 19th Feb '14 9:44:48 PM by Kurgy
I think 48 is a nicely round number.
On a related note, how mant stages do you think the game will have? The original had 9, Melee had 29 and Brawl had 41 + C (here C is the number of custom stages created). I actually can't see the exact logic of the increase of the number of stages (at least with the characters, you get an approximated version of 15 -> 25 -> 35 -> 45), so I can't tell.
I think Sakurai said at some point that there wouldn't be retro stages this time around (booooo!!).
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311And there are some stages that are the same between versions, like Battlefield and Little Mac's boxing arena.
Aww, no hard feelings. Hopefully.
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edited 19th Feb '14 11:04:09 PM by Midna
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In Brawl, Lucas was a starter and Ness was unlockable. Though Ness was a starter in Melee, though he was unlockable in 64.
As such, WHO KNOWS IF THERE IS ANY PATTERN.
I could be fine with dropping Snake. I never needed him. And he plays so weird in comparison to everyone else.
Falco and Wolf I want because Star Fox needs representation.
Also more games.
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