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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36401: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:09:30 PM

Agnes would make sense but I feel like Square would push for a more well known character.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#36402: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:13:36 PM

I don't necessarily think that's true. You can't sell many more copies of Final Fantasy IV than they already have, at least until there's more turnover in the market. They could sell a lot more copies of Bravely Default with Smash Bros.' Colbert Bump.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#36403: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:13:41 PM

I'd rather have someone far more well known than just a new guy. Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest, or someone from Super Mario RPG if we're pushing it.

Albeit, if having Square-Enix in means we can get a Super Mario RPG in addition to their own personal IP, I'll accept that as a double third-party because it's an extremely special condition. One of the third parties is a Mario character. However, I doubt that would happen anyway, so we can probably leave SMRPG out to dry(minus cameos via Trophies/Stickers/Assist Trophies/Music/Stages/Anything else I forgot somehow).

There are tons of Final Fantasy games. I wouldn't be surprised if we did get a rep from one of the first 6(or possibly others since many have had notable Nintendo appearances, even previous Playstation only protagonists) that we had trophies spanning from multiple games. I doubt only one Final Fantasy game would get any representation if we got a character. It didn't apply to Sonic or Metal Gear when their appropriate characters appeared, why would it apply now?

edited 19th Feb '14 8:15:30 PM by Irene

Shadow?
MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Urara-lala~!
#36404: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:15:09 PM

or we could have neku to represent a much beloved game that really needs more love from its parent company SQUARE ENIX WHY IS THERE NO TWEWY SEQUEL YET YOUR FANS ARE FROTHING AT THE MOUTH

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36405: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:17:16 PM

If they were doing version exclusive characters Neku would be my pick for the 3DS. Since they're not I think it's almost guaranteed that they'd choose someone FF related.

Neku would be fun though.

MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Urara-lala~!
#36407: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:18:51 PM

if lil mac can appear on the 3ds smash bros theres no reason why neku cant be on the wii u smash bros

edited 19th Feb '14 8:29:31 PM by MetaflarePrime

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#36408: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:21:23 PM

Yeah. Neku could appear on both. And would, since the roster is going to be the same on both versions according to Sakurai.(will we be able to unlock everyone without connecting, though? Nobody knows. Most presume that won't be necessary, which I don't much care either way, but I see a good reason to have a solid finished roster on each version without buying the other as a better idea, personally. The other exclusives do well enough in making people want the other game)

Anyway, those are some interesting choices from 4 Games/Franchises, though.

edited 19th Feb '14 8:21:56 PM by Irene

Shadow?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36409: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:22:06 PM

[up][up][up]I'm thinking various types of psych moves for his normal attacks with his three partners attacking for his specials and/or smashes. The giant skull laser he uses on the final boss would be his final smash.

edited 19th Feb '14 8:22:16 PM by Kostya

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36410: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:22:20 PM

What I want is a majority of oldcomers and a handful of newcomers. But preferably adding up to more characters than Brawl had.

How do characters make the cut? By not being clones, by being current, and by not hurting themselves when they attack? tongue

So Dr. Mario was just another Mario clone, Roy gets dropped for Ike, Mewtwo gets dropped for Lucario (or "spiritually successed"), Young Link gets replaced with Toon Link, and Pichu gets dropped for being a weaker Pikachu.

...a Weakachu. [lol] But still cute.

Who are some Brawl fighters who might actually not make it to Super Smash Bros 4?

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#36411: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:22:52 PM

As I've said before, the only FF character I could solidly support would be Gilgamesh.

Also, I'm starting to really like the idea of Isa & Kachi as a paired playable character. Shame the series would be lucky to get an Assist Trophy this time around...

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#36412: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:24:54 PM

@Keybreak: I congratulate you for avoiding the joke that Mewtwo is technically a clone. Or maybe you just didn't realize it. I still find that joke funny.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36413: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:27:34 PM

Mewtwo is hardly a clone. He's warpier, floatier, psychicker, uses his tail more than his legs...

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MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
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#36414: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:29:45 PM

@ pheer: Off the top of my head for specials,

B, Pyrokinesis: For a few seconds, if you hold B a flame will travel out of Neku. The flames are controllable with the control stick.

B>, Lightning Rook: Neku shoots out a beam of lighting in front of him. Enemies are stunned for a second if caught in it.

B[up], (whatever that one pin that teleports you above the enemy and then slashes downwards): Neku teleports above the closest enemy and slashes downwards. If there's no enemy in range, he'll just teleport above his original position.

B[down], (that one pin that summons a giant stereo speaker to blast giant sound waves): Neku summons a speaker behind him. As long as the button is held, sound waves will blast out of the speaker. The waves get smaller and weaker as the button is held.

Final Smash, Object Rain: Neku summons Joshua and they teleport to opposite sides of the stage. For several seconds, increasingly large objects start raining on the stage.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#36416: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:31:55 PM

Remember, Sonic was what caused Mewtwo to get cut, not Lucario. Mewtwo has a decent, but not guaranteed chance to get back.

If Mewtwo does return, think it'll get a trailer? I suspect yes.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36417: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:32:48 PM

Oh you meant that way.

Semantical punning.

Big name event: "Mewtwo Returns". tongue

edited 19th Feb '14 8:33:21 PM by Keybreak

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#36418: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:33:12 PM

[up][up]Maybe. We've never had a character return after being absent for a game so it's unclear how Sakurai would count it. It might not matter though since so much has changed with Pokemon and Mewtwo that it would effectively be a different character from the Melee one.

edited 19th Feb '14 8:33:37 PM by Kostya

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#36419: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:37:05 PM

[up]This is also the first time a cut character can reappear, so that doesn't mean much. It's probably tied with Lucario in promotion right now, and it's definitely more popular than everything except Charizard and maybe Pika/Luc.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#36420: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:37:38 PM

Eh, if I had to guess about any Brawl characters not making the cut, I'd say Pokemon Trainer.

Not that I don't like him. Or his Pokemon. But he seems just a bit...excessive.

Who else? Possibly R.O.B. Not that I don't like him either, but he doesn't seem like he'd be popular enough to stay.

A lot of the other fighters though I'd expect to keep.

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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#36421: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:41:02 PM

It might be feasible to have no cuts, as this game is being built over a ported Brawl instead of being made from scratch like Melee and 64.

Also, here's a Ridley!Kirby looking suspiciously like Kain.

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MetaflarePrime Urara-lala~! (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Urara-lala~!
#36422: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:41:53 PM

oh hey i remember that from waaaayyyy back

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#36423: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:45:04 PM

For Neku's basic attacks:

Jab Combo: Shockwave psych
Forward Tilt: Lance Lunge
Down Tilt: Stellar Flurry
Up Tilt: Vulcan Uppercut
Forward Smash: Massive Hit
Down Smash: Vortex Saber
Up Smash: Ice Risers
Dash Attack: Velocity Tackle
Nair: Spark Core
Other Aerial Moves: Generic Shockwave attacks, I guess

Final Smash: I can't decide between Mewzilla, Jesus Meteor, or Surfin' Shibuya, so maybe just the giant Fusion attack he uses to finish off Draco Cantus.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#36424: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:48:51 PM

Why do people think R.O.B. is getting cut? He's a unique character representing his own stuff. It would be like cutting Game & Watch. The feasible cuts right now are PT, Ike, and Snake. Maybe Lucas, Falco, or Wolf, but I say they're all safe.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#36425: Feb 19th 2014 at 8:51:28 PM

Losing Pokemon Trainer's movesets would be a damn shame.

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