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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35776: Feb 13th 2014 at 7:57:25 PM

^^^^ Bald Bull has his own page, actually.

As Irene mentioned, King Hippo probably has trace popularity from appearing in that one show back in the day - which would also explain the wikipedia disparity - but that doesn't make him any more relevant to the series (especially since Captain N seemed to have a tendency randomly pick characters from games and then just do whatever the hell they could think of to them).

edited 13th Feb '14 8:08:02 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#35777: Feb 13th 2014 at 7:58:42 PM

I kinda liked to think the Morph Ball at the end was her scouting out his training facility to see just what kind of alien technology must make him so strong.

Or maybe they're cool and she's just hanging out with him and eating chocolate bars.

edited 13th Feb '14 7:59:02 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35778: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:00:11 PM

She's just curled up in the Morph Ball so no one can steal her precious chocolate.

Not that I would suggest eating something in that kind of position - how the hell does she fit in that thing?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35779: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:03:06 PM

@Anom: They changed around the SSB words in the Boxing Ring stage to Punch-Out words.

As for why it wasn't PU in the first place, who knows. Lots of possible reasons. But a lot think it wasn't revealed as a new skin till Little Mac was revealed so it wouldn't outright give away Little Mac's inclusion. The issue with that is we've seen courses without characters, so it seemed pointless to not having the words say Punch-Out from the start. Or maybe it became a PU stage later on in development. Who knows?

We might be able to use both skins as is for instance. Like Mushroomy Kingdom, to a degree.

Shadow?
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#35780: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:05:05 PM

This is an ongoing discussion in the Metroid thread, actually, mostly because Game Explain ran a segment proving that yes, at least in the 2D games, it is possible for her to contort herself into that size because humans have done it before (based on scale of the ball versus her normal height in pixels), though Prime made it pretty explicit that she is converted into Plasma (despite what Science Team seems to think)

Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Mummy Woomy
#35781: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:05:19 PM

@Samus morph ball in trailer: I just thought very highly technological tumbleweed.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:05:53 PM by Elbruno

"Yeah, it's a shame. Here we are in an underground cave with all these lasers, and instead of having a rave we're using it for evil."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#35782: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:05:49 PM

Bald Bull has his own page, actually.

Uh, yes. Look at what I said more closely.

And the article for Bald Bull is a stub in comparison.

Anyway.

but that doesn't make him any more relevant to the series

In-game relevance is not the same thing as being iconic. Also, by that logic Pikachu is irrelevant.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:06:09 PM by CassidyTheDevil

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#35783: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:06:38 PM

Bothersome work keeping me away from what's important... A Smash newcomer! >;/

Heh, he's sensitive about his height. Poor Samus. (more people should learn how to imbed Youtube!)

For a while I thought that his trainer was going to be talking through every fight. Which would be a nightmare to play with...

But that Cast from Hit Points gimmick? Cool...I just hope it's not too strong.

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#35784: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:07:28 PM

Or that's she's shrunk down to size and it's just like a big hamster ball.

Oh really when?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35785: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:07:30 PM

So... who's replacing Mac as the Punch Out!! assist trophy, I wonder? Hopefully Bald Bull (and if there are bosses, I hope we get Mr. Sandman).

<_<
>_>

...When Little Mac joins the battle, Alfonzo takes over as the Assist Trophy!

Alfonzo: "Leave it to me-" *BOOM*

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35786: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:07:48 PM

I'm pretty sure Pokemon is a bit more recognized by Nintento than Captain N, actually.

If you think the Bald Bull page on wikipedia is a stub, I really want to know what wiki you're reading. And since when "whose Wikipedia page is the longest" the litmus for who's most important to the series? I could point out that the Punch Out wiki has more to say about Bald Bull than it does about King Hippo, but how is that any more relevant either?

King Hippo is one of the most iconic enemies in the series, but I would still say Bald Bull is a bit moreso - simply by way of being an "always there" kind of character.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:17:27 PM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#35787: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:08:52 PM

@Known Unknown: I think she's rolling around because she's on a sugar high. Space-age chocolate isn't as sugary as Doc Louis's.

Also, since you asked, the Morph Ball is stated to be a meter in diameter, which taller, less flexible people are capable of curling into. Samus should have no issue.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:11:12 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#35788: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:11:02 PM

I said in comparison. But whatever, I hate when people nitpick on every single thing when they argue.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35789: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:11:59 PM

<shrug> Just things that merit nitpicking.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:18:34 PM by KnownUnknown

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#35790: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:12:24 PM

I don't think I've ever heard of Bald Bull before today. I do know who King Hippo is, though.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#35791: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:15:54 PM

[up]x5

His page actually is a stub though.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35792: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:16:28 PM

I knew of the characters through the game first, not the cartoon.

I just like King Hippo the most because he had a real personality and wasn't flat. He's definitely not flat. >_>

Shadow?
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#35793: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:19:30 PM

What are you talking about? Of course he's flat.

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35794: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:20:16 PM

His manhole cover is flat. Does that count?

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#35795: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:20:23 PM

That seems to be a running theme with 80's-early 90's action cartoons. The villains always have the most personality, which makes you want to root for them instead of the designated heroes.

On that note, King Hippo in Captain N probably has the least design changes out of anyone to appear on that show besides maybe Eggplant Wizard. They just made him blue.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:20:39 PM by Midna

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35796: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:20:48 PM

I noticed that some of Doc Louis's quotes during the comic book portion of the trailer and the gameplay portion used the exact same voice clip. Namely where he says "Uppercut!" and "Smash 'em!"

I wonder if that means anything.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35797: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:23:13 PM

I wonder if we're going to get Doc Louis acting the game, or if that was just for the trailer.

<hoping>Please let us get a Codec-esque Doc Louis thingamajig</hoping>

^^ And a supervillain underling to an evil overlord.

edited 13th Feb '14 8:23:47 PM by KnownUnknown

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35798: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:24:24 PM

Some of the quotes ("The punch is mightier than the sword!") really make me think of a personalized codec, in the style of Punch Out's corner tips.

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Keybreak (Long Runner)
#35799: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:26:26 PM

Also, apparently the idea of a sugar high is just a myth, but eh.

You gotta believe me when I scare you away, all that I wish for is that you would stay
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35800: Feb 13th 2014 at 8:27:06 PM

Little Mac's power meter and the unique play styles of Rosalina, Mega Man, and Villager make me hopeful that Sakurai will be open to including characters with more unusual mechanics like Ray, various magic users, and Shulk and Zael.


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