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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#35001: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:08:14 PM

There are ways a quadriped could grab.

Most of them would probably look like wrestling holds.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35002: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:09:30 PM

Doesn't Sylveon have prehensile feelers? If Ivysaur worked then she could too.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#35003: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:09:36 PM

Anime has sylveon's ribbons work like combat tentacles anyway

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35004: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:11:00 PM

@Kostya: We mean besides Sylveon. It can easily throw. Eevee doesn't have that advantage. You could completely half-ass it with Leafeon using a vine whip, cause it's a grass-type.

But yeah, Eevee essentially glomping someone could work. Or other wrestling moves.

Shadow?
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#35005: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:11:16 PM

Heihachi is not "the" main character. He's a major character, but he's not central to anything anymore.

The protagonist of Tekken 1 was Kazuya Mishima, and the primary antagonist was his father, Heihachi. This was reversed in Tekken 2, where Heihachi became the protagonist, fighting against Kazuya, who turned evil.

Starting in Tekken 3, both Kazuya and Heihachi were complete dicks, with companies in direct competition with each other (at least, I think G Corporation was around in 3. Might've been 4...no, wait, that can't be right. Kazuya wasn't in 4...who the hell runs G Corporation, again? Was it the company Kazuya created as a rival to his father's Mishima Zaibatsu, or did Heihachi form it after Kazuya took over the Zaibatsu? I need to research more before posting). The protagonist was Kazuya's illegitimate son Jin Kazama, whose mother was one of the characters in Tekken 2.

Jin has mostly been the protagonist of the series since then, although Tekken 6's adventure mode starred Lars Alexandersson, who is Heihachi's illegitimate son with some Swedish lady we've never met. I think. Might've been Kazuya's kid, but I don't think it was. Damn, it's been a long time since I talked about Tekken. Anyway, despite Tekken 6 being the latest game in the series (with a canonical story mode, anyway) the adventure mode is generally ignored in favour of the regular arcade story mode, where Jin was the villain, until The Reveal that he had only been acting evil in order to cause enough conflict to summon the demon Azazel, so he could kill him.

tl;dr: The main character of Tekken is Jin Kazama, and has been since about 1998.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35006: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:13:13 PM

I'd assume Sylveon would use its feelers, Espeon and Umbreon hold them through telekinesis, and Leafeon uses vines. What the other four would do is not readily apparent to me.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35007: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:16:32 PM

Probably just wrestling moves, then. Maybe Glaceon could make an ice hook with its powers and grab them that way, kind of like Villager's Net.

Rest I got nothing for, though. I mean, I know Bind is a normal move, but I think that's stretching it too much.

I just wish they weren't pretty much foxes and could grab opponents with their mouths.

Shadow?
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#35008: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:18:06 PM

Jolteon could use magnetic powers because electromagnetism or some bullshit

Oh really when?
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#35009: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:29:11 PM

@Irene, we're trying to clear up Heihachi for you, not argue. Sorry.

I wasn't talking about ghost hitboxes. Just scale up Eevee a bit.

Pikachu and all the others can grab, there shouldn't be an issue about Eevee.

@Kostya: It'd be better to go with the original, iconic than something that is now/soon/easily outdated.

@Bad Wolf: huh. I didn't know about that reveal.

edited 31st Jan '14 10:30:58 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#35010: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:38:45 PM

I don't see a problem with avoiding yet another 1st Gen character, though. And ah. I'd rather go with Eevee small size myself. And yeah, new character models for each costume would take way too long. Simple color changes akin to Mewtwo's costumes would be best. The thing is, the slight model changes isn't a bad thing. But when you gotta color change every move and such, it's not worth the effort. I like having Gen II and VI characters, the only reason I even support the Eevee idea. Seeing as how we got Gen II via Pichu, I'm fine with Sylveon alone as well.

I dropped from the Tekken conversation last page. No interest in the series, sorry.

Shadow?
Keybreak (Long Runner)
#35011: Feb 1st 2014 at 12:32:25 AM

So watching this...

I find the lack of credits overlaying the action to be questionable.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#35013: Feb 1st 2014 at 8:42:06 AM

"Oh no! The confirmation of a completely different fighter means Mewtwo will never make it, even though only two Pokemon have been confirmed so far!"

Many fans cannot into logic.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#35014: Feb 1st 2014 at 8:48:24 AM

To be fair, Lucario ended up taking Mewtwo's slot whether that was originally the plan or not, and they do have SOME similarities, superficial or otherwise.

paperbritt Since: Apr, 2013
#35015: Feb 1st 2014 at 8:51:09 AM

" I will bring lawsuits" " there will be consequences"

This is even better butthurt than the Ashley reveal!

Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#35016: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:13:47 AM

there will be consaqunses

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Ascruffydragon Since: Oct, 2013
#35017: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:20:41 AM

I'm not hating on lucario but I still find it sad that they chose the same mon (which was insanely popular I know, but it seems like it calmed down even with the whole Mega evolution thing) I mean, they are many popular mon's they could have chosen and I find his gameplay boring and unnefective (maybe it's because I was never an expert in Brawl, but shhh)

Even if they do add another mon I doubt they'll make a whole huge roster of pokémon characters. Or if they do it, even if I'm a fan of the franchise, I'd really dislike it

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#35018: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:23:47 AM

I hope Mewtwo will be back. I think he probably will be. Also, I'd like for Pokemon Trainer to return too.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#35019: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:26:04 AM

I was mildly surprised, since for years I figured the Lucario/Mewtwo slot would be a kind of change-out slot for Pokemon that were popular at the time and weren't grandfathered in like Pikachu and Jigglypuff.

Melee was a couple years after The First Movie, and Mewtwo in Melee was definitely referencing his appearance there. Likewise Brawl and the Lucario movie. So I figured that slot would be taken up by whatever Pokemon was most recently movie-ized in Smash 4.

Still, I can understand why they kept him. He was a fairly popular fighter in Brawl, after all.

edited 1st Feb '14 9:26:46 AM by KnownUnknown

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#35020: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:46:44 AM

I don't see a reason for Lucario to be dropped just because its generation has passed and is now in the middle of the franchise instead of the end. There's no reason Pokemon has to be represented as bookends, the first and last generations only.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#35021: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:51:40 AM

[up]This is the same kind of argument I use in favour of Ike.

To be fair, Lucario ended up taking Mewtwo's slot whether that was originally the plan or not

No he didn't. Considering that both were intended, with Mewtwo being low-priority, if anyone "took" his slot, it would have been Sonic, considering that he was a last-minute addition to the roster.

edited 1st Feb '14 9:52:58 AM by KSoniK

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#35022: Feb 1st 2014 at 9:58:21 AM

The thing with Lucario is that he's just as relevant as ever. He plays a pretty big role in XY after all. And frankly, if we had to choose between Lucario or Mewtwo, I'd take Lucario. Gen 1 is great and all, but I'd like the other gens to get some representation.

The lack of a solid gen 6 option is an issue, though Mewtwo would probably fill that void with its Mega evolutions.

Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#35023: Feb 1st 2014 at 10:04:01 AM

[up][up]Please don't make me play semantics.:/

Point is, Lucario is superficially similar enough to Mewtwo to be considered his successor/replacement.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#35024: Feb 1st 2014 at 10:05:33 AM

"consaqunses" is now my favorite misspelling. cool

It's so fucking hilarious.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#35025: Feb 1st 2014 at 10:08:27 AM

Consaqunces will never be the same.

edited 1st Feb '14 10:08:35 AM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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