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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#34976: Jan 31st 2014 at 8:54:33 PM

They made Soul Calibur, and the second game had Link in it.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34977: Jan 31st 2014 at 8:55:16 PM

[up][up] That's what Kirby is here for.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#34978: Jan 31st 2014 at 8:55:40 PM

Is it wrong of me to want Viewtiful Joe representing Capcom instead of Mega Man?

Oh really when?
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#34979: Jan 31st 2014 at 8:55:54 PM

[up]x5 Link was in Soul Calibur II which is made by Namco.

Namco also made Star Fox Assault which was still a good game. So Namco has three characters that could represent them.

Fox, Link, and Donkey Kong.

I didn't include Falco or Wolf.

edited 31st Jan '14 8:56:37 PM by Halberdier17

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#34981: Jan 31st 2014 at 8:56:32 PM

But imagine how much fun he would be

Oh really when?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#34982: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:00:28 PM

Replacing Snake with a Belmont would be a crying shame, due to the loss of his unique and fun moveset.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34983: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:02:43 PM

Did Assault have any unique Star Fox characters, that is, developed by Namco-Bandai? Would be neat to get a Trophy or Sticker of them if so.

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Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#34984: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:07:36 PM

I don't like the "Pac-Man should get in because he's iconic" argument. So is the Pong paddle and the Space Invaders, but where are they?

I bet no one would be advocating for his inclusion if Namco-Bandai wasn't developing.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34985: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:10:05 PM

He's iconic... to arcade games. That's where he specializes in. Most of his console-specific stuff did not go very well.

Also, I've seen a lot of rosters with him on it even during Brawl's, so it's not really a Namco-Bandai developing thing. He's just a popular character people want in. Mega Man had a similar treatment. However, I do believe that some definitely think he's a shoo-in just because they're the developers(and in some cases, I can confirm that). But yeah.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#34986: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:10:58 PM

So is the Pong paddle and the Space Invaders, but where are they?

Yeah, it's like adding in a variable, personalityless guy from an ancient LCD watch/video game console. But no one would be silly enough to do that.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
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#34987: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:11:14 PM

Again, I'd much prefer any Tales of swordsmaincharacter.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#34988: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:13:17 PM

@Halberd: that doesn't represent them.

I'd love Viewtiful Joe too, except for the whole Platinum Games thing.

I would hate to see Snake go, but really, couldn't Konami release main series games on a Nintendo console ever?

Agumon joining the battle thanks to it being Namco Bandai would humor me to no end.

[up][up]Or some sort of robotic operating... associate.

edited 31st Jan '14 9:14:12 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34989: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:17:03 PM

Sakurai has to go out of his way for 3rd party characters and deal with lots of legal wrangling, so it makes sense to go for big names like Mega Man or Sonic and much less sense for current minor-leaguers like Pac-Man. Mr. Game & Watch and R.O.B. are Nintendo-owned and thus not nearly as hard to include.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#34990: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:17:05 PM

Bandai could add the Ryukooh/Koryuoh, piloted by Kusuha/Bullet. It's from Super Robot Wars.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#34991: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:18:52 PM

If not Pac-Man, what Namco character?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34992: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:19:52 PM

Third Parties don't work that way.

Even if, say, Capcom stopped releasing Mega Man games outside of Nintendo, the company itself would still be third party. The company has to become first or second party before we have a chance of getting a second of their characters. Since every third party character is "special" and Sakurai doesn't want that many anyway, it's been reasoned he's doing one per company max due to all his statements.

[up] Nightmare(with Siegfried costumes), Klonoa, Cress, Lloyd Irving, somebody from Tekken(I say Heihachi, due to his guest appearance in Soul Calibur II. It suggested to me, due to zero experience with Tekken's story, that he was a very important character. I may be wrong though).

edited 31st Jan '14 9:22:04 PM by Irene

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#34993: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:21:03 PM

[up][up] Lloyd Irving. Cress. Luke Fon Fabre. Asbel.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#34994: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:30:02 PM

Heihachi was that series' first Big Bad, and the main characters are him and his family. It's really a matter of what generation of his lineage is being the biggest asshole at the time.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34995: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:52:59 PM

Ah. So he is the main character. I got mixed messages on here when I suggested he'd be a good Tekken choice for SSB.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#34996: Jan 31st 2014 at 9:57:31 PM

Oh boy, the eternal talk about Namco characters...

@Eevee: The problem with that idea is size. Eevee is about 1'00" (0.3m) in height (or in lenght? Not sure). Eeveelutions on otherhand are around 2'11" (0.9m), meaning that either they have to change Eevee's size in its alternate costumes, screwing the balance, or they have to scale up/down something, which is just huh. Besides, it would mean Eevee has to have 8 different models each with their own special effects for moves. Resourches ain't free, you know.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34997: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:00:30 PM

[up]Thank you. If they're having any Eevee representation it would be far simpler to just make it one Eevolution. Maybe it could have palette swaps inspired by the others but not full model changes. That's just not worth it for one character.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#34998: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:03:16 PM

We get it, Kostya. You only want Sylveon.

[up][up]They're not the most consistent about scale, I don't think most people would really complain, and at this point it's just a hypothetical desire.

[up][up][up]He's a main character. Tekken isn't so much about one character in particular, as much as it is about that family of character's relationships to each other and the rest of the cast.

edited 31st Jan '14 10:04:15 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34999: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:06:22 PM

Costumes kind of have to be up to scale. Otherwise, the hitboxes get screwed over. I think a lot of people forget this. This is why no costume is supremely different from another. Or more or less a Palette Swap each.

Also, there is nothing wrong with Kostya preferring Sylveon. And his reasons are pretty justified. I see both points as pretty fair.

I want to see multiple Gens represented, but I also concur that properly implementing Eevee(namely its ability to throw) would be pretty difficult.

[up] Well, he's the only one I've ever seen be a Guest character, so he's my automatic go-to guy. Anyway, I don't know the story, so I'll drop from that conversation.

edited 31st Jan '14 10:07:24 PM by Irene

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#35000: Jan 31st 2014 at 10:07:34 PM

[up][up]Even if I didn't want Sylveon I'd still think making eight separate models and animations for one character is a waste of time.


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