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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#34901: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:16:20 AM

Eh, all I know is that I'm hoping for Cynthia to be a character of her own - probably like Pokemon Trainer in Brawl, but with Garchomp, Spiritomb, and Roserade as her three choices.

Hey, if we're going to just randomly dream about inclusions, might as well shoot big. And hey, considering that Cynthia is one of the most popular humans in series history (both among fans and developers - it's why she keeps reappearing), it's not the most ridiculous idea out there.

Also, Goomy would totally be a Poke Ball selection. If they did pick a Gen VI representative, I'd guess Aegislash.

Finally, on the heels of today's announcement... remember when I speculated on alternate skins for each character? I'd say Mewtwo could be one for Lucario easily. Mewtwo already learns almost all of the moves Lucario uses anyhow.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#34902: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:17:23 AM

I think that making Mewtwo a Lucario skin would both be nonsensical and a bit of a slap in the face for people who wanted Mewtwo to return as his own character.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34903: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:20:26 AM

I think I posted this before but I'd make Mewtwo's moves:

  • Neutral b-Shadow Ball
  • Up b-Teleport
  • Side b-Psycho Cut
  • Down b-Barrier
  • Side Smash-Swift
  • Up Smash-Future Sight
  • Down Smash-Focus Blast
  • Final Smash-Psystrike

That would probably make him a bit more threatening.

edited 31st Jan '14 11:21:08 AM by Kostya

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#34904: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:22:05 AM

@wanderlustwarrior: Ever play Project M? Because that's exactly what they did. And some other things. Mewtwo is a lot more fun to play now.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#34905: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:25:13 AM

No, but I've seen the trailer after I had those thoughts a while ago.Dat music. Dose combos... Hover seems like a good addition.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#34906: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:30:02 AM

I considered Cynthia myself, but as a replacement for Lucario. She'd have Lucario, Garchomp, and either Spiritomb or Togekiss. It's not happening now, but I liked the idea.

KSoniK Since: Jan, 2015
#34907: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:30:51 AM

Considering that Lucario and Mewtwo only share one Special Move and one similar Forward Smash, neither needs any moveset change at all.

edited 31st Jan '14 11:31:10 AM by KSoniK

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#34908: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:31:02 AM

Fricking Project M, it always keeps popping up xD

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#34909: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:31:18 AM

Down B: Future Sight: Mewtwo flashes purple. 3 seconds later, a Mewtwo-shaped explosion happens at the location where he used Future Sight.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34910: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:32:47 AM

Actually I think I had that idea before but I changed it because I preferred the idea of him having Barrier.

Keybreak (Long Runner)
#34911: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:35:21 AM

I like the moves Mewtwo had in Melee. Shadow Ball was strong, Confusion was fun, and a good reflector, Teleport was cool, and Disable had a cool sound. And there weren't many moves that could disable an opponent without grabbing them or breaking their shield.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#34912: Jan 31st 2014 at 11:35:29 AM

Seriously though, I hope they update Mewtwo's model(in project m) and maybe some other returning characters from melee :P I mean, Mewtwo model is fanmade and you can see that

edited 31st Jan '14 11:35:44 AM by SpookyMask

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#34913: Jan 31st 2014 at 12:47:08 PM

I just wish we were getting updates besides characters and screenshots, like mechanics, items and especially music.

Because damn, I really want to know if this song got in:

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#34914: Jan 31st 2014 at 12:49:58 PM

I really hope either that or DENNIS make it in.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#34915: Jan 31st 2014 at 12:55:36 PM

@34902 Yes, it would be a slap in the face to Mewtwo fans. Brawl already showed that they were ready and willing to make said slap. I would not put it past Sakurai to do it again. As for nonsensical... I fail to see how. I mean, if this is a challenge to build a Mewtwo similar to how I'd build a Lucario, that's really not an issue. About the most you could say is that there's nothing in the games that would suggest Mewtwo would get more powerful at higher damage percentages... which is also true about Lucario (there are the moves in Pokemon which do get more powerful when you're at low health... and neither learns any of them).

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#34916: Jan 31st 2014 at 12:57:32 PM

@Evo Video: The problem is that Confusion had a bit of a glitch (actual glitch this time) where the reflected projectile wouldn't hit the person that threw it, unlike every other projectile reflector in the game. If they fixed that it would be a huge help.

edited 31st Jan '14 12:58:34 PM by Nap1100

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#34917: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:01:51 PM

I might Lucario's Extreme Speed to Bone Rush, make it ''actually an attack, and have it able to change direction but move in short bursts, like Pikachu's Quick Attack. That makes it more similar to its namesake move, and more unique to Lucario.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#34918: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:04:46 PM

[up]That's a nice idea. Creative way of implementing Bone Rush's mechanics, too.waiiBut alas, we have a screenshot of Extremespeed already.

I'm not sure if it'd be too broken, but maybe Aura Sphere gains homing properties proportional to either Lucario's damage or how much it's been charged. Whichever one is less broken.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34919: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:05:45 PM

If by some miracle Sylveon does get it then I'd want Moonblast to be her final smash. It can be a Spirit Bomb type attack.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#34920: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:37:13 PM

Given that you can teach appropriate moves to all of them, I think a fun way to handle Eevee would be to make one Eevee character, have the different palettes actually be different Eeveelutions, and animate their moves as appropriate depending on which one you're using. Though I'd probably make Trump Card the Final Smash in that case.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34921: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:38:51 PM

[up] I like that idea. It also does a great job of covering multiple Generations. Still leaves out Gen III and V, though. But at least Poke Balls solve that. What will they do for throws? Sylveon is easy. Leafeon can just use vines for it because "grass type", but the rest... not so much.

Shadow?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34922: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:43:44 PM

What would their specials be? Most of the Eevolutions learn fairly different moves.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#34924: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:55:28 PM

@Footsteps: THIS.

All Eeveelutions learn the moves Eevee knows, then it's just a matter of finding attacks or special attacks that look similar. Other moves can be colored appropriately. Plus, it works loosely for colored teams. Flareon, Espeon and Sylveon for red, Vaporeon and Glaceon for Blue, Jolteon and Umbreon for "yellow", and Leafeon as the (lonely) green.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#34925: Jan 31st 2014 at 1:56:36 PM

Eh, sounds like a bit too much work. I'd just prefer Sylveon.


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