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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34476: Jan 28th 2014 at 11:51:55 AM

Well, those colors are just lighter and darker variants. So variants of Red make sense.

You can still attempt to have as many unique costumes that represented a color, however.

Shadow?
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#34477: Jan 28th 2014 at 12:57:51 PM

Hmm... thing is, I don't know what would work as alternate outfits for the various characters. Going through the roster, starting with the easier ones...

Wii Fit Trainer - the male trainer is an obvious choice. Mega Man - Proto Man. Sonic - Knuckles (though how that would work with the attacks is a good question; regardless, Shadow would probably just look like a simple palette swap). Olimar - Louie. Marth - Roy (which would either be catering to the fans or trolling; not sure which.) Mario - Dr. Mario (see Marth above.) Samus - Fusion Suit (not just the palette; the actual design.) Rosalina - Her motorcycle outfit from Mario Kart Wii. Toon Link - His pajamas from the beginning of The Wind Waker. Pit - Phosphora (I'm not letting this one die... that said, don't forget that the weapon patterned after her is a bow.) Pikachu - Pichu (Only as long as it still worked like Pikachu; none of this "damages self when attacking" business.) Villager - Female villager. Bowser - Dry Bowser.

Huh... that was easier than I thought. Pretty easy to come up with an actual alternate skin for most of them that has some sense in-canon. I'll try a few stabs at the less obvious ones:

King Dedede - A mini Wispy Woods? Zelda - Maybe Impa or Nabooru? Kirby - Um... perhaps Lololo could work. Fox - The problem is that the two obvious choices, Falco and Wolf, were characters in Brawl. Maybe Slippy, if Falco got one in Peppy and Wolf had Panther Caruso. Peach - Daisy is too similar and would be closer to a simple palette swap. Maybe Pauline? Speaking of... Donkey Kong - Perhaps Chunky Kong, I guess. Link - Um.... get back to me on him. Luigi - Waluigi perhaps, just to drive folks nuts.

That's just my own spitballing, of course.

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strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#34478: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:00:55 PM

For Fox, maybe James Mc Cloud?

Also, Luigi had an alternate costume that was Waluigi colored in Brawl. There was also Dark Link.

edited 28th Jan '14 1:02:19 PM by strawberryflavored

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#34479: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:05:41 PM

Dr. Luigi needs more recognition. Which makes me think we need a Dr. Wario. And a Dr. Bowser.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#34480: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:13:56 PM

  • Villager: I'm assuming that female Villager will be among the normal color swaps, so maybe a Mii Mask?
  • Mario: Dr. Mario, which is what everyone and their mother has chosen.
  • Donkey Kong: Mystery Land Donkey Kong, because SAFARI
  • Mega Man: I am literally the only person alive who thinks Quint is too goofy to hate, aren't I?
  • Link: My first pick would be Twilight Princess's Magic Armor.
  • Wii Fit Trainer: We're already getting male!Wii Fit Trainer, so...
  • Samus: Fusion Suit.
  • Kirby: Epic Kirby. (It's not so much Yarn Kirby as it is Crochet Kirby.)
  • Fox: Assault Fox.
  • Pikachu: Captain Pikachu. AKA Project M's pirate hat.
  • Bowser: Dry Bowser.
  • Pit: Three Sacred Treasures. If that doesn't work, Pit (Revived).
  • Olimar: Pikmin Olimar, however the heck he'd look when plucked.
  • Luigi: Propeller Luigi.waii
  • Peach: Furisode Peach. Obscure, but still there.
  • Toon Link: Hero's New Clothes. It's Pajama Link, but the normal clothes is still visible in his shadow. The normal clothes is also visible when you pick up something like a Cloaking Device or Metal Box.
  • Sonic: I dunno. Excalibur Sonic? Virtual Hedgehog?
  • Marth: No idea.
  • Rosalina: Concept art Rosalina.
  • Zelda: Uh... Ocarina of Time Zelda? *shrugs* Until we get more info on Sheik, I got nothing.
  • King Dedede: Masked Dedede!

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Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#34481: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:19:14 PM

I'd have Zero-Suit Samus use her military uniform from Other M, if only because I think it looks pretty good.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34482: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:26:16 PM

  • Mario: Jumpman colors.
  • Luigi: Dr. Luigi and/or Waluigi if he's not playable.
  • Wario: Same as Brawl.
  • Bowser: Dry Bowser.
  • Yoshi: Boshi.
  • Peach: Already fine with her current costumes.
  • Rosalina: Maybe a Pauline-based costume?
  • Link: Perfect already.
  • Toon Link: Conductor and Outset Island costumes.
  • Zelda: Princess Hilda design.
  • Sheik: OOT!Impa style costume.
  • Ganondorf: If he isn't his Toon variation, which I'm guessing he's still TP style, something that looks like his Toon version without the big belly. His robe and all.
  • Pikachu: Second set of costumes where he looks a lot like Pichu.
  • Jigglypuff: None needed. Already perfect.
  • Marth: A Roy-look alike costume, perhaps. If he's not playable, anyway.
  • Sonic: Colors similar to some of his friends, please. Not the lame bracelet changes.
  • Mega Man: Protoman and/or Bass style costume.
  • Wii Fit Trainer: If the male design isn't a costume... well, it should be. No other stuff needed.
  • Kirby: Unmasked Meta Knight style costume.
  • King Dedede: Masked Dedede of course.
  • Captain Falcon: Updated Blood Falcon costume with a facial expression and spikes.
  • Ness: I think he already has a Ninten-like costume, if not, that.
  • Olimar: Costumes akin to the other Captains.
  • Mr. Game & Watch: Just more colors in general, perhaps a silver costume?
  • R.O.B.: Already perfect, and a virtual boy costume if not.
  • Ice Climbers: Hammer Brothers. >_>
  • Samus: Dark Samus, her Light and Dark suits.
  • Zero Suit Samus: None I can think of.

Shadow?
Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#34483: Jan 28th 2014 at 1:28:07 PM

Marth would be probably his Awakening get up.

Though his classic outfit would be funny even if just because of the lack of pants.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#34484: Jan 28th 2014 at 2:49:27 PM

My general rule with the idea of alternate costumes is that they should not be an actual other character (Like, say, Dixie as an alt costume for Diddy). Palette swaps referencing other characters (Peach's Daisy colors, Mario's Wario colors, ect) are fine, but a more detailed model change should still be the original entity. Anyway, here's my proposals.

  • Mario: Dr. Mario
  • Luigi: Mr. L
  • Peach: Sports attire, unless her dress is crucial for certain attacks. I don't think her Down-Smash NEEDS it, right?
  • Bowser: Dry Bowser
  • DK: ???
  • Diddy: ???
  • Yoshi: Either Yarn Yoshi if that's still a thing, or just Black and White Yoshis as more dignified palette swaps.
  • Wario: Overalls Wario just like in Brawl, and with its own color palette again.
  • Link: Haven't played Twilight Princess, but he has some options from there I'm sure.
  • Zelda: ???
  • Sheik: ???
  • Ganondorf: Assuming he retains his TP design, he could have his OOT design as an alternate costume. They are the same person, at least.
  • Toon Link: Outset Island clothes, natch.
  • Samus: Fusion Suit, with the Fusion Suit-esque palette swap replaced with a different color.
  • Zero Suit Samus: I'm torn between the ending clothes from Super Metroid or Fusion, or her military outfit from Other M.
  • Ice Climbers: Default outfits, but Nana leads and Popo follows. Perhaps they could have this apply to the other palette swaps as well and have 12 different choices.
  • Pit: The outfit equipped when using the Three Sacred Treasures.
  • ROB: Not sure here. I generally don't care for Project M (And I feel like they stole my costume ideas tongue), though I do like Virtual Boy ROB. Failing that, they could promote the NES color swap to a "costume" and replace it with a generic palette swap.
  • Kirby: Not sure here. Any hats would interfere with his copy ability, but that leaves few options. Yarn could work, though it seems sorta difficult to implement.
  • Meta-Knight: Maskless
  • King Dedede: Masked
  • Olimar: Classic suit design, from Pikmin 1 and 2.
  • Fox: Expert Mode sunshades
  • Falco: Assault design, or his N64 design. Like, literally all polygonal, for fun.
  • Wolf: Regular eyepatch replacing the metal one.
  • Captain Falcon: Haven't played F-Zero, but I've heard there's some really silly one in GX he could use?
  • All the Pokemon: Their shiny palettes.
  • Pokemon Trainer himself: His RBY design instead of his FRLG design. Leaf design works too, if we truly are getting the male Wii Fit Trainer as a precedent for that kind of thing.
  • Marth: ???
  • Ike: ???
  • Ness: Pajamas
  • Lucas: Pigmask Commander uniform
  • Mr. Game & Watch: Original disjointed look.
  • Snake: ???
  • Sonic: Classic Sonic?

  • Villager: If male Wii Fit Trainer is really a thing, then female Villager. If not, then I dunno. You could just stick a different outfit on him, but I imagine his palette swaps will be more involved already.
  • Wii Fit Trainer: Again, possibly the male Trainer. If not, then I don't know.
  • Mega Man: As much as I want to say Bad Box Art Megaman, I'll just say Rock.
  • Rosalina: Mario Kart biker outfit.

I was surprised that Project M decided to use the Pigmask Commander uniform for Lucas. I thought I was the only one to consider that, considering how small a part that is.

edited 28th Jan '14 2:53:41 PM by Anomalocaris20

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34485: Jan 28th 2014 at 2:50:11 PM

Doesn't Peach have a floaty thing with her jump?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#34486: Jan 28th 2014 at 2:52:10 PM

That doesn't require her dress, though. I'm mainly worried about hitboxes during certain moves like her Down-Smash, which IIRC is sort of a dress-hem-slash.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#34487: Jan 28th 2014 at 2:56:36 PM

Of course, there's always the "screw it" option and just have the hitboxes not match up perfectly with the model.

I sure said that!
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#34488: Jan 28th 2014 at 2:57:27 PM

That would probably be a last-resort thing though.

Besides, they could do what Project M did and use Shadow Peach from Thousand-Year Door, which would line up with the hitboxes.

edited 28th Jan '14 2:58:13 PM by Nap1100

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#34489: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:11:44 PM

For those trying to imagine alternate costumes for Marth, perhaps "Marth" is an option. With the mask, and all.

Also this.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#34490: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:12:59 PM

I'd prefer they have said "Marth" without the mask since it would mean another female and a popular one at that.

MrYoshbert A Fan of Feathery Flights of Fancy from ??? Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34491: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:14:18 PM

I'd like to see Fire Peach as an alt costume, ponytail and all. Maybe her Sunshine wear, too.

Eh.
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#34492: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:14:20 PM

People are going back and forth on whether Awakening!Marth is a good candidate either as a distinct character or a mere palatte swap, or if the gender confusion on the issue wouldn't be too great...

"Marth isn't a person, he's a state of mind, man."

[up] Yes, Fire Peach rocks in so many ways.

edited 28th Jan '14 3:14:46 PM by Ogodei

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#34493: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:14:34 PM

Yeah, but... spoilers. :|

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#34495: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:21:55 PM

Yeah, I guess. But that's like, old news man.

I'm just saying, if I hadn't played Awakening, and played Smash, and had that spoiled for me, I'd be pretty upset.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34496: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:23:09 PM

It was a really long time between OOT and Melee, to be fair.

Anyway, I don't see the problem, but it'd be fine as solely a costume only. I also feel it's very different since Masked Marth is a separate person altogether.

Shadow?
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#34497: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:23:45 PM

"Marth's" true appearance is actually revealed quite quickly in Awakening. His true identity is kept a mystery until the halfway point, though.

I sure said that!
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#34498: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:23:55 PM

How do you think people who played Melee and didn't finish Ocarina yet felt?

Granted, it was a 4-year difference compared to a 1-year difference, but it was still a pretty big spoiler.

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Role Model
#34499: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:24:27 PM

How many years after OOT did Melee come out?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#34500: Jan 28th 2014 at 3:25:33 PM

You're really not making your point sound better, Nap.

The only reason I thought the Zelda/Sheik thing was good because it was a full character to play as. Adding in a spoiler as a costume seems entirely unnecessary.

It only was fair to do with Sheik and ZSS for what I just said, because it's how they were playable. If they're not playable, I don't see a reason for that spoiler.

Shadow?

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