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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#33276: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:00:50 PM

Speaking of which, I was really disappointed in Brawl's opening- It's just a bunch of recycled clips from SSE and some gameplay footage.

I sure said that!
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#33277: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:01:22 PM

Plus no Title Scream.

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#33278: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:01:37 PM

@Mag: I meant this:

[up]Oh yeah, that actually kinda upset me the first time I played Brawl.

edited 16th Jan '14 8:02:00 PM by Odd1

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#33279: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:03:45 PM

The Title Scream was important to me too.

Brawl's opening music was good in general, but I wasn't impressed by the clips themselves. I mean, animation and all looked lovely, but the choices to show... not so much. Some of it isn't bad, like showing off all the characters in one shot like the earlier games. I hope SSB 4 returns to the original theme with a neat remix and keeps the Title Scream.

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#33280: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:04:15 PM

It may well be Sakurai being out of touch, but it isn't Sakurai being mad at Youtube.

Nintendo's always out of touch. It's like the LP fiasco. Or the EVO thing. Or how they wouldn't patch the Wuhu Island exploit until five months after.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#33281: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:07:29 PM

Didn't the EVO thing end like 3 hours later?

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#33283: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:08:34 PM

EVO thing? Do I even want to know?

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#33284: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:08:40 PM

It sure did happen.

[up] Someone at Nintendo said something about no allowing EVO to run ads on videos of the Melee tournament. The internet erupted, and someone else from Nintendo retracted it. Sounds like the first guy didn't know what he was doing?

edited 16th Jan '14 8:10:20 PM by Enlong

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#33285: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:10:48 PM

I think it was worse than that, they actually said they couldn't stream it.

In any case, an Internet Counterattack happened and they reversed their decision.

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#33286: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:13:04 PM

I thought they said they couldn't run ads, so the guys at EVO said they wouldn't stream it at all in that case.

Anyway, I wonder what the cutscenes we are getting will be like.

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#33287: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:13:37 PM

Oh yeah, I remember that and the storm of crap that launched, and by "storm of crap" I mean "people complained a little bit about it and then the internet forgot it by and large".

Like I said, I'd love another Melee-esque Special Movie.

edited 16th Jan '14 8:14:03 PM by Odd1

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#33288: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:14:55 PM

I'd like stuff in the vein of SE's cutscenes, as well as in-battle machinima stuff like the special movie.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#33289: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:18:50 PM

I remember reading about the Special Movie in Melee's manual, but I could never find it.

Did it have to unlocked?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#33290: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:21:03 PM

I think it might be unlocked from the start. Check the movies section.

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#33291: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:24:09 PM

I'm rather disappointed we're not getting a full-fledged adventure mode. SSE was fun to me, and while not perfect I'd have liked to see what they could do if they improved it.

Hopefully we will get some good single player content, though. Brawl had a ton and that gave it a lot of replay value for me since I don't have people to play with all that often.

At least online will be better.

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#33292: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:27:15 PM

Speaking of which, I was really disappointed in Brawl's opening- It's just a bunch of recycled clips from SSE and some gameplay footage.

wild mass guessThe opening wasn't full CGI because people put Melee's up on You Tube.wild mass guesstongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#33293: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:30:41 PM

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#33294: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:30:59 PM

I liked the fact Brawl's opening movie was done entirely with in game footage. It shows how far graphics have come that we don't need an over abundance on pre-rendering anymore. (Yes, I said that with knowledge Subspace emissary is full of them, but I found it nice finding the context to those clips).

And yes, Galleom and heavy Lobster's similarities are basically fought twice, jump around, are metallic... and if you really want to stretch it, can rush off the side of the screen. Heavy Lobster is 90% collision damage. Its jumps are back and forth erratic or just straight up and it spends a lot more time just running forward. Galleom is employing a "crush these people smaller than me" style with deliberate axe handles, stomps and belly flops. His jumps are all across the screen or directly at your position, which again, is to crush little guy. His missiles also have more utility than the flame thrower and he has nothing resembling the little lobsters or paint. Even the rush has a different purpose. Heavy lobster does it to escape after its bum rush left its backside exposed, Galleom is trying to run you down.

Storyline wise, Heavy Lobster was a dud who ended up broken into pieces after both fights, Galleom was an implacable man who stayed intact until he activated his own self destruct.

I suppose Duon is the Twin Woods, or maybe Lololo and Lalala? Rayquaza must be Fatty Whale.

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#33295: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:36:03 PM

That Smash Wiki needs to expanding on the similarities. But yeah, they're small. Some bosses have an attack or two from a Kirby boss. It's not even odd, just Sakurai throwing in fun references to other stuff he created. Nothing weird~

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#33296: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:38:22 PM

Heavy Lobster's first fight doesn't count, since it's cut off early and isn't supposed to be won.

And Heavy Lobster doesn't jump around very much, as I recall.

As for the metallic part... well, yes, but I was trying to talk just about attacks, which was what what the claim I was disputing was bringing up specifically.

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#33297: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:42:33 PM

[up][up][up]No, Porky is obviously the Fatty Whale ripoff.

edited 16th Jan '14 8:42:53 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#33298: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:42:49 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]I don't actually mean it.

edited 16th Jan '14 8:54:09 PM by MagcargoMan

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#33299: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:52:48 PM

You know, if you think about it, the entirety of Smash's boss tradition is copied, when you trace it back to the source, from David Bowie. Think about it: You've got Master Hand and Crazy Hand, the first bosses in the series, who seem to be at least somewhat derived from Kirby Super Star's Wham Bam Rock...but let's analyze its name. The "Wham Bam" part of this character's name could be derived from David Bowie's song "Suffragette City", as perhaps the most famous part of the song is near the end, where he goes "awwwwwwwwwwwwwwWHAM, BAM, THANK YOU MA'AM!" Thus, this song was clearly the inspiration for that boss, which in turn inspired Master/Crazy Hands.

I rest my case.

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#33300: Jan 16th 2014 at 8:54:20 PM

It does come with other issues, like "since when does he talk?", so I understand why dialogueless cutscenes made sense too.

Except plenty of the characters in it can talk. Peach, Zelda, Ganondorf (well, the Zelda characters never had voice acting in games, but they do talk), Zero Suit Samus, Pit, Meta Knight, Dedede, Marth (he would speak Japanese with subtitles), Fox, Falco, Wolf, Captain Falcon, Pokémon Trainer, Lucario (through telepathy), Lucas, Ike, Snake, Sonic.

There. At least half the cast can talk. And if you want to go further Wario, Bowser and Luigi have spoken in text in a lot of games. And as of Pikmin 3, Olimar can talk (in simlish, but still) too.

edited 16th Jan '14 8:58:15 PM by MagcargoMan

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