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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32851: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:39:40 PM

See, that's a bad idea because it'll get people complaining about how their favorite character was only an assist trophy rather than a playable character.

It's no use, every topic in this fandom will invariably lead to an argument. It's unavoidable.

Brilliant pagetopper. Brilliant.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:40:20 PM by Nap1100

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#32852: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:39:41 PM

I had hoped the dashing in SS would have justified making Link a little faster.

I sure said that!
Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#32853: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:39:58 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Ashley will probably fly around and shoot fire at people and will grant you to hell, and Skull Kid will summon more cartoony versions of the dummies from Twilight Princess.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:40:40 PM by Grounder

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#32854: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:40:16 PM

I'd like to see a Swooping Snitchbug assist from Pikmin, to snatch up your enemies and throw them into the ground (Or off the bottom of the stage).

Also, even though they get Poke Balls, I'd like to see a Pokemon Assist Trophy in the form of, say, one of the human characters. Not sure what they'd do as an Assist Trophy, though. Maybe a Ghetsis assist trophy that's just a Background Music Override.

For Donkey Kong, Funky or Cranky would be good Assist Trophies. Perhaps Cranky could pogo-bounce everywhere. tongue

edited 15th Jan '14 5:42:10 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32855: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:41:04 PM

@MagcargoMan: BTW, I like the implication that clone characters are "inferior", yet you have to backtrack in your argument to point out that this isn't the case.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
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#32856: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:41:22 PM

I agree Ashley should make the players have giant pants. I think Skull Kid will drop the moon down which might effect gravity.

I would like Isa Jo and John Raimi to be assist trophies if they aren't playable; Maybe even have Takamaru (Nintendo seems to be promoting him a lot more recently.)

edited 15th Jan '14 5:42:51 PM by Halberdier17

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#32857: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:41:46 PM

Skull Kid might drop the moon on you, like Snorlax. Ashley, no idea.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32858: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:42:39 PM

Isa would make a cool playable character. Maybe even tag-team with Kachi.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:43:23 PM by Enlong

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32859: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:42:46 PM

[up][up][up][up]BTW, I never said inferior in terms of power, I just meant in terms of creativity.

Actually, I never even used the word "Inferior". You make up stuff to "prove" your case.

But changing the topic is the most effective way I've found to return this thread to a ground state.

It's more comparable to sticking your head in the sand.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:46:09 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32860: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:44:26 PM

Anyway, what I was trying to go on about with the tournament topic is that Apex 2014 is this weekend. I'm going to try to go myself on the Saturday to at least spectate and try out some of the side tournaments and maybe get some casual matches in.

Also, for the record, there's a lot more about Brawl that competitive players hate than the lack of wavedashing. I personally like it and all, but I don't think it's too big a deal if it's gone.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:45:06 PM by Nap1100

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32861: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:49:50 PM

It's more comparable to sticking your head in the sand.

...I'll take it.

It's to like I can claim to be singling out a particular thing that really shuldn't be talked about, or even trying to avoid a particular poster's argumens. I've been doing this just abou any brewing debate for a while.

So, yes. It's basically cowardice. Perhaps even an admission that my own opinions aren't as strong. But I'll take that any day over the alternative. Because I've done that before.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:55:23 PM by Enlong

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#32862: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:50:27 PM

Did somebody order a topic change?

Something we can all agree on:

That tripping thing in Brawl was some bullshit

Oh really when?
Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32864: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:53:28 PM

Actually, I never even used the word "Inferior". I find it hilarious that you make up stuff.

If clones had full potential they wouldn't be clones. Let's use one of the best examples: Toon Link

Love how you're not seeing the implications there.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32865: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:56:05 PM

Love how you failed to prove how that's a "backtrack".

edited 15th Jan '14 5:56:16 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#32866: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:56:22 PM

It's presumably gone. Well, the random version. Sakurai answered a vague question on it saying it was removed. To clarify it was "Is tripping gone?" "Yes." Would've been nice if it was specific. I'm sure it's the random variety.

Shadow?
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#32867: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:57:07 PM

But seriously, there's a villain I'd like to see in the game, though I'm pretty sure it won't happen because he's Too Big. Maybe as a boss, or maybe a stage hazard. Hades of course.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32868: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:57:19 PM

that's vague?

I have a message from another time...
Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#32869: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:58:20 PM

Can we please stop this Nth discussion on the same bloody topic?

Let's see, potential assist trophies... some party members of Xenoblade besides Shulk come to mind. Sharla could fire a healing round to her summoner that can be intercepted by another player standing in the way. Melia could use one of her Limit Breaks, either an expanding ether shockwave or an huge ether blast in front of her. Riki could wander around the battlefield attacking people with status ailments and his stick.

[up][up][up]That sounds pretty dang clear to me.

[down][down]Jesus...

edited 15th Jan '14 6:01:30 PM by Elbruno

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#32870: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:59:11 PM

Why do people complain about input lag? Are their senses so finely tuned they can notice a difference of 1/30th of a second?

I'm playing Project M at Apex, even given my distaste for some of the changes it made. "Hey, some people call Wolf a clone, so let's make him even more of a clone for no reason!" Replacing vibrant, unique stages with dull, Battlefield-esque ones; taking away Wario's bike, stuff like that. It's still probably the best Smash Bros game so far.

@Irene: He probably never even thought that it would come off as vague. I didn't think about forced tripping until others pointed out the ambiguity.

edited 15th Jan '14 6:00:29 PM by doctrainAUM

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32871: Jan 15th 2014 at 6:00:21 PM

Can we please stop this Nth discussion on the same bloody topic?

Can people stop defending rehashes over unique fighters?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32872: Jan 15th 2014 at 6:01:42 PM

Love how you failed to prove how that's a "backtrack".

If Toon Link was at his full potential, he'd be representing the unique items found in his games, rather than being a smaller faster Link who makes Vanilla Link suck in comparison. Heck if anything, Toon Link being a clone makes regular Link not reach his full potential.

Because apparently the clone is inferior when he's superior.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32873: Jan 15th 2014 at 6:02:02 PM

[up][up][up]You think you might be available for some casual matches after the Project M tournament is over? I'll be arriving around 3 p.m. Saturday for the Skullgirls side tournament, and I'm pretty sure Project M is done by then. I need some practice with real people in that game.

edited 15th Jan '14 6:02:14 PM by Nap1100

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32874: Jan 15th 2014 at 6:03:22 PM

[up][up]Looks like you failed here, because when I was talking about full potential, I wasn't talking about "statistically better".

"Hey, some people call Wolf a clone, so let's make him even more of a clone for no reason!"

They did what?!

edited 15th Jan '14 6:04:42 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#32875: Jan 15th 2014 at 6:05:43 PM

Forced Tripping was never even implied in the interview at all. The original person who asked it didn't imply anything with it.

Both of them were vague, and while random tripping was the most hated, nobody knows what the others meant. I'm of course sure, like everybody else, random tripping was meant on both ends, but with Sakurai? I won't hold my breath if all types of tripping are gone, even character moves. That's why it being vague is annoying, since it doesn't tell us anything beyond "some kind of tripping is confirmed gone, but until we get the game, we won't know the extent of the actual message".

Shadow?

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