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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32826: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:06:30 PM

Because seeing a different take on a character is actually rather interesting

And seeing a completely unique character is far more interesting.

Anyway, Pikmin only has 3 games and doesn't need a second character. They can just give Olimar the Rock and Winged Pikimn.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:07:53 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32827: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:07:29 PM

[up] Not really.

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#32829: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:09:35 PM

Here we go again.:/

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#32831: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:11:05 PM

[down] You'd be surprised what doesn't start an argument in this topic.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:12:22 PM by Midna

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#32832: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:11:09 PM

I'd almost rather talk about how Ridley is too big

Oh really when?
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32833: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:12:36 PM

Why can't Olimar have all seven Pikmin? I thought one of the DLC challenges gave you all of them.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32834: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:12:37 PM

[up][up][up]Kinda like how Ness could use PK Fire and PK Thunder in Earthbound, right? (the joke is he can't and it doesn't matter because Smash takes liberties)

edited 15th Jan '14 5:12:45 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32835: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:13:16 PM

It's also clear that he encountered them at some point since you find logs about them all over Earth.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32836: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:14:09 PM

This is kinda off-topic, but I wish Winged Pikmin were called Pink Pikmin. Consistency.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32837: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:14:49 PM

I prefer Rock and Winged actually since they're significantly different from the other Pikmin appearance wise.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32838: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:17:51 PM

[up]I agree with Rock Pikmin, but the Winged would still work as part of the colour-coding name system. Maybe it's just me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#32839: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:19:42 PM

Uniqueness |= Interesting

It's more how the character eventually work out against other characters and the stages that make them interesting. For clone characters to truly be clones, they'd have to play exactly the same and have the same advantages and counters from or against the same characters, and they'd have to work equally well or bad on the same stages. Different properties and gameplay mechanics ensures that they will have to play different from each other in order to bring out their full potential.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32840: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:25:55 PM

If clones had full potential they wouldn't be clones. Let's use one of the best examples: Toon Link.

Toon Link is the Hero of Winds, star of Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass. In those games, you get all sorts of unique items not found in other games, or ones found in other games but work better here due to being more cartoony. Link pulling massive hammers out of Hammerspace, wearing Iron Boots, sending out Bombchus, gliding with a massive leaf. If they really wanted to live up to his Toony nature and make him represent the games he's from, he would have been given items and moves from these games.

If Toon Link was at his full potential, he'd be representing the unique items found in his games, rather than being a smaller faster Link who makes Vanilla Link suck in comparison. Heck if anything, Toon Link being a clone makes regular Link not reach his full potential.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32841: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:29:48 PM

Heck if anything, Toon Link being a clone makes regular Link not reach his full potential.

This is so wrong and so fucking hilarious at the same time.

For the record, Link would have always sucked, with or without Toon Link.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32842: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:32:39 PM

Link could've not sucked if they actually put some effort into making him useful and not give him gimmicky stuff like the Gale Boomerang. Has nothing to do with Toon Link being faster.

He was mid tier in Melee remember, just above Young Link. If they went off of that incarnation and sped up his attacks a bit and/or gave them some more oomf, he could probably be a good character regardless of anyone else.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32843: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:32:52 PM

How about we talk music again?

Wait, no, the last music discussion had the Gangplank Galleon thing.

...dammit, I'm actually running out of go-to topics for panicked topic changes.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32844: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:34:07 PM

Should I bring up tournaments?

For all the arguments we have over the competitive scene, they seem to be much more civil than everything else. Not saying much, but it's something.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32845: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:35:17 PM

This is so wrong and so fucking hilarious at the same time.

Statement is accurate if the post referenced is changed to "Because seeing a different take on a character is actually rather interesting [compared to a non-clone character]"

For the record, Link would have always sucked, with or without Toon Link.

Yes, but by having another character that has Link's moveset, it just highlights even more how much regular Link sucks.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:35:50 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
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#32846: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:35:45 PM

The competitive scene have adapted to the characters and their uniqueness, even the clones.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32847: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:36:30 PM

[up]They also hate Brawl and complain about the lack of wavedashing so I don't care if they like their clones or not.

...dammit, I'm actually running out of go-to topics for panicked topic changes.

Well stop changing it then.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:37:39 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32848: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:37:50 PM

Assist Trophies!

What Assist Trophis do you guys want to see/what do you think Ashley and Skull Kid do?

I'd love it if Ashley made everyone wear colossal pants for a while.

edit:

[up] But changing the topic is the most effective way I've found to return this thread to a ground state. [down] And I really don't care much if it's subtle. I mean, I think that ship sailed about the second time I did this.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:40:28 PM by Enlong

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Midna Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they) from way down south in the land of the traitors (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Blorbonmyoji (he/she/they)
#32850: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:39:02 PM

[up][up][up]The loss of wavedashing is a bother, but not a deal-breaker. There are, however, some things about Brawl, like the input lag, the stale-move nerfing, and various physics quirks that make it not terribly viable for competitive play.

edited 15th Jan '14 5:40:24 PM by Midna

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