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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#32801: Jan 15th 2014 at 1:56:56 PM

I just feel that, while Hawlucha is awesome, Braviary would be the more unique one to play as.

If only because then someone could reskin it to be Ridley, or something.

Edit: I figure it would have a fighting style based around getting opponents in the air and keeping them up in the air with combos.

edited 15th Jan '14 1:58:14 PM by ultimatepheer

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32802: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:47:41 PM

All this did, besides dashing some people's hopes of Ashley being playable, is confirm Wario's coming back.

It also slightly raised hopes for people who wanted Captain Syrup or Mona.

Wait, how is the Brawl K Rool theme not suitable for fighting to?

I never said it didn't work in a fighting game, I said it didn't sound as good as the original.

I believe that the "post" is on the other side of the above Link.

Which Link?

I figure any Brawl newcomers that make the jump to 4 like Olimar and Pit are joining the roster permanently.

Pit and Olimar were always safe.

Hawlucha would be better because wrestling moves are awesome

Hawluncha would be better because Braviary wouldn't even work.

edited 15th Jan '14 3:48:12 PM by MagcargoMan

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Grounder Main Character Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Main Character
#32803: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:51:22 PM

[up]Pit I can understand, since Sakurai did Uprising, but Olimar?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32804: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:53:39 PM

[up][up]I know Pit was but Olimar was actually someone I was concerned about. He's not a major Nintendo character after all and I could easily see them deciding to cut him.

edited 15th Jan '14 3:53:48 PM by Kostya

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32805: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:54:52 PM

[up][up]Olimar is the main protagonist of the Pikmin series. He is the star of the first two, and is in the third one (even playable in DLC) as well.

Also Pit would have been in even if someone else made Uprising. The point is Uprising gives him a reason to stay besides being a retro character.

He's not a major Nintendo character after all and I could easily see them deciding to cut him.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

edited 15th Jan '14 3:56:53 PM by MagcargoMan

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#32806: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:58:48 PM

Had it been confirmed that Ashley isn't playable?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32807: Jan 15th 2014 at 3:59:51 PM

[up]Yes. She's an assist trophy and would have gotten a page on the site if she was a character.

[up][up]Well I question how much Nintendo cares about Pikmin so it seems like a valid concern. Olimar, ROB, Toon Link, Pokemon Trainer and Lucario are the Brawl Newcomers that I wasn't sure about going into this game. I assumed most of the others would return in some form.

edited 15th Jan '14 4:01:13 PM by Kostya

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32808: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:00:03 PM

[up][up] Yes. Sakurai specifically stated that she's an assist trophy.

*ninja'd*

edited 15th Jan '14 4:00:32 PM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32809: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:02:22 PM

Well I question how much Nintendo cares about Pikmin

They promoted Pikmin 3 a lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32810: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:05:16 PM

They should have. It was in development for 9 years. I doubt it would have gotten nearly as much focus if it wasn't one of Miyamoto's pet projects though.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32811: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:11:59 PM

Speaking of Pikmin, I'm really hoping the lack of Winged/Rock Pikmin in Olimar screenshots isn't implying that we are getting a second Pikmin rep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32812: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:13:26 PM

I would be so infuriated if that happened. Pikmin is one of those series that, while near and dear to my heart, I really don't feel like it should have another character.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32813: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:15:46 PM

Not to mention they'd be a clone. I mean, they'd probably have a unique Up Special where a Winged Pikmin carries them, but to control and organise your Pikmin you need to have Pikmin Pluck and Pikmin Order as specials.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#32814: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:29:17 PM

Why not Emperor Bulblax or Plasm Wraith?

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32815: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:29:33 PM

[up][up] So two identical moves makes it instant clone then?

edited 15th Jan '14 4:29:44 PM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32816: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:31:17 PM

[up]Stop with the clone apologism.

Emperor Bulblax

Um... No.

edited 15th Jan '14 4:31:51 PM by MagcargoMan

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#32817: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:32:22 PM

As a boss? I think that'd be pretty neat.

I sure said that!
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32818: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:33:29 PM

[up]Yeah it would, but I think he meant as a playable character.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32819: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:40:00 PM

[up][up][up] If they play differently, why not? It's not a bad thing.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32820: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:41:31 PM

[up]How different could they be if they both have Pikmin?

I don't know if any of the enemies from the series would work as a character. Some could make good assist trophies though.

Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32821: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:43:25 PM

[up] If one had one set of Pikmin, and the other had another set of Pikmin, they'd be rather different, given the unique traits that Pikmin have.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32822: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:46:32 PM

Not really. It would be more like what they did with Ness and Lucas or Link and Toon Link where they gave them the same attacks just with slightly different properties. They'd still be close enough to count as clones.

This is also ignoring that I don't think Pikmin is deserving of a second character. It's not that big.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#32823: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:51:01 PM

If they play differently, why not? It's not a bad thing.

Why have rehashed movesets with slightly different properties when you could have characters who have completely unique movesets?

And since Sakurai said the roster won't be much larger than Brawl's, clones are more unfavourable than ever. Also, in a roster of that size, Pikmin would be a very low priority when it comes to getting a second rep.

Wario and Donkey Kong should get second and third reps respectively priority-wise.

edited 15th Jan '14 4:52:06 PM by MagcargoMan

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#32824: Jan 15th 2014 at 4:58:56 PM

Well, using Pikmin doesn't necessarily mean hey'll use the same moves Olimar has. Perhaps a Pikmin 3 captain could be less Falco and more Wolf.

But I would like to see more Donkey Kong characters. If not K. Rool, then perhaps Cranky. Because Cranky is the closest we'll ever get to having Scrooge Mc Duck in Smash Bros.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#32825: Jan 15th 2014 at 5:04:36 PM

[up][up] Because seeing a different take on a character is actually rather interesting, because such characters require different strategies in order to succeed, and they play differently as well.

Lets say that one character gets 4-5 of the Pikmin while the other gets the rest. Besides plucking and throwing, the rest of the moves would be different because the Pikmin get different properties each. One might be versatile thanks to the Pikmin he gets, but could also be rather dependent on having the right Pikmin at the right time, while the other could be more limited, but also more stable and with more freedom in their attacks.

[up] Cranky and his Pogo Stick would own so hard! cool

edited 15th Jan '14 5:05:34 PM by Folt

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