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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32576: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:31:38 PM

If we're getting another Zelda character I'd like it to be one of the villains. Ghirahim and Vaati could both work.

[up]What's wrong with Impa? She can be made different from Sheik.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:32:12 PM by Kostya

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#32577: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:31:39 PM

I'm so glad people listened to my raisins reasons.

[up]Ghirahim = One-Shot Villain. So no.

But when he does have it, it's justified, which is all I mean.

I'm pretty sure there was no justification in Wind Waker.

What's wrong with Impa? She can be made different from Sheik.

She can. Just like Toon Link could have been different from Link. And like how Ganondorf could have been made different from Captain Falcon.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:34:30 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#32578: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:34:18 PM

I have no problem with her having her own character slot as long as Sheik stays.

Mind you, I want Oracles!Impa explicitly since that'll give a playstyle unseen. The Big Woman who can throw cows and kick some serious ass.

I won't pretend I know much about SS's version besides she can use a shield and possibly some magic. OOT version is pointless to discuss, since I'd rather have both Sheik and Impa playable instead of Sheik cut.

[up][up] Absolutely nothing wrong with Impa. It's like people forget she has four versions of her. An old woman, her big lady, her stick figure in SS, and her ninja form in OOT.

I do like Ghirahim too, and Vaati, obviously. Ghirahim is actually pretty important as a character, it's just Vaati is a main villain too. That's why I think Vaati is more deserving. It's why I like Tingle the most of them all, since he's an actual protagonist now.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:36:18 PM by Irene

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32579: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:35:53 PM

[up][up]One-shot villain from the most recent console game. I don't see what's wrong with including him. He's a better choice than Toon Link.

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#32580: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:36:55 PM

[up][up][up][up] There's nothing wrong with Impa. It's just that Impa was the subject of one of The Big Arguments, with Irene on the other side.

[up] Oh no...

edited 14th Jan '14 7:37:13 PM by Enlong

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32581: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:38:01 PM

[up]An original character is always better than clone(unless I hate the character in question).

What is wrong with that statement?

edited 14th Jan '14 7:41:50 PM by Kostya

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#32582: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:38:35 PM

One-shot villain from the most recent console game. I don't see what's wrong with including him.

Oh, so advertising what happens when Skyward Sword is no longer the most recent console Zelda game?

An original character is always better than clone.

Even though on the last page you said you'd rather Toon Zelda than Tingle.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:39:21 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#32583: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:39:36 PM

[up][up] It's one of the things that always, always stirs this thread up.

  • How recent a character is being linked to their likelihood or deserving..ness (either directly or inversely)
  • likelihood in general
  • How much the 3DS version is impacting the final roster
  • Fire Emblem
  • Sheik
  • Metroid
  • Pokemon
  • etc.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:41:00 PM by Enlong

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#32584: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:40:36 PM

[up][up]OK, what exactly is your beef with advertising? What's wrong with helping spread brand recognition?

[up]And Ridley, and Pac-Man, and...

edited 14th Jan '14 7:43:38 PM by Midna

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32585: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:41:17 PM

[up][up][up]He doesn't return? I'm not talking about making him a recurring character. Just for this one game I think he'd be a nice addition to the Zelda roster.

Tingle is special. I suppose I should amend that to say "always better if I like the character". Even then I wouldn't like either of them being in. I just hate Tingle more.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:42:15 PM by Kostya

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#32586: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:42:38 PM

Please, can't we talk about any other thing? How about Rosalina? Ineresing to see how disparate Luma's attacks are from hers, huh? I wonder what sor of combos can be done with the different attack properties.

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#32587: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:42:53 PM

[up][up][up][up] I think we would save time if we just said "practically everything".

edited 14th Jan '14 7:43:05 PM by Nap1100

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32588: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:43:17 PM

Rosalina is going to be Difficult, but Awesome. I'm calling it now.

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#32589: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:44:20 PM

That raises the question of how far away Luma can be. I'm guessing... three scale meters, maybe? Any further seems a bit silly.

I sure said that!
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#32590: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:45:01 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Brand Recognition? As if Zelda is struggling to stay in the mainstream gamer's mind.

It's a shallow reason to include a character. It's a cynical reason to include a character. It's how we got Playstation All-Stars's completely BS choice Third Party characters.

Why is it fair that some one-shot villain gets in over some character who has been in way more games than him?

He doesn't return?

Any character that's added with the intention of being cut next game shouldn't be in the game in the first place. Why would you advocate that? That's just highlighting why this is a bad decision in the first place.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:45:40 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#32591: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:45:34 PM

[up][up]Maybe about as far apart as the Ice Climbers can get?

[up]As long as they're fun to play as, what exactly is the point, I ask you?

edited 14th Jan '14 7:46:15 PM by Midna

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#32592: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:46:54 PM

Nah, I think Luma can be any distance away. I don't think it moves when she jumps, is the thing, so that's how you separate the two.

Or maybe holding B causes the Luma to be active or something. Either way I doubt they'll limit it that much.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:47:36 PM by Nap1100

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32593: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:47:14 PM

[up][up][up]What's wrong with one-shot characters? Also they could just include him again but you didn't seem to like that idea. I would be perfectly fine with him staying.

edit: So do you dislike Roy being in? He was in one game. What about Ice Climbers? They're not important in the slightest yet they got in.

I think Ghirahim would be fun to have and I like the character. He's also an important villain in the series lore so I don't see what's wrong with having him.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:49:00 PM by Kostya

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#32594: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:48:47 PM

[up][up] Seems like Luma is nomally close, but can be sent out a distance on command.

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#32595: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:49:07 PM

[up][up]Because there are characters who have been in way more games than him. Why is fair he gets in over them?

Given how Ghirahim turns into Demise's sword at the end of Skyward Sword, I doubt he'll show up in another Zelda game. Put him in Smash, and it'll just be another case of Jigglypuff.

What about Ice Climbers? They're not important in the slightest yet they got in.

I swear you people don't even think these points through. Ice Climbers are one-shot characters in a game (Ice Climber) where no character is more important than them. Ghirahim is a one-shot character in a series where there are more not-one-shot characters that could be playable instead.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:51:08 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#32596: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:50:25 PM

[up]Well of the other Zelda villains we have to choose from I think Ghirahim would work the best barring possibly Vaati.

edit: I agree he won't show up again but he's still important to the series. His actions start the chain of events that leads to Ganon's reincarnation cycle in the first place.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:52:01 PM by Kostya

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#32597: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:51:06 PM

Why is this such a hot-button topic?

People are just saying characters they think it would be cool to have in the game, and you're treating every suggestion that isn't Captain Syrup like a serious issue to be debated.

Just chill out, man. Most of the suggestions aren't going to make it, people are just fantasizing about what they'd enjoy.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:52:16 PM by Mukora

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#32598: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:51:55 PM

every suggestion that isn't Captain Syrup

Nice Flanderisation there.

So do you dislike Roy being in?

Yes. Yes I do. One-shot lord with the sole reason of inclusion being advertising a game that wasn't even released.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:52:44 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#32599: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:52:14 PM

This has nothing to do with Captain Syrup.

Huh. Ninja'd.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:52:56 PM by Enlong

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#32600: Jan 14th 2014 at 7:53:21 PM

It's the only character I've seen you mentioning. I'm sure you have others you'd enjoy, but I don't have much of a frame of reference, because you seem to be treating her as the only example.

That isn't even the point- the rest of my post still stands.

edited 14th Jan '14 7:53:47 PM by Mukora

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