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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30851: Dec 27th 2013 at 2:32:47 AM

Man, Sakurai has spoilt us in Smash. Whenever I look at official artwork for Return to Dreamland I cringe at how simplistic Meta Knight looks compared to Brawl.

EDIT: Heh.

edited 27th Dec '13 4:22:57 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30852: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:16:42 AM

He's always been that simplistic, the artwork is just staying true.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30853: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:21:07 AM

[up]I know, but the only Kirby games I've played are sprite-based ones. So after seeing what Meta Knight looked like in a 3D Kirby game after I saw him in Brawl first kinda makes it look weird to me.

EDIT: Man, I forgot to reply to this:

I think that's a bit too extravagant compared to most of the victory themes. And being shortened would make it a bit weird.

I think this would work better:

edited 27th Dec '13 6:44:37 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#30854: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:24:19 AM

Return to Dreamland model looks not really different from the Super Star Ultra CGI model(the only other game with a 3D Meta-Knight model: Cutscene only)

edited 27th Dec '13 6:26:18 AM by randomness4

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30855: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:30:37 AM

[up]Haven't seen him in Super Star Ultra; only played it once.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#30856: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:44:43 AM

It appears that, differences in art style aside, Hilda's colour scheme works well enough with Zelda's SSB 4 model, even before any hypothetical mesh modifications. The corresponding one for Link would have to be a little more abstract, though...

edited 27th Dec '13 6:46:32 AM by Null

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#30857: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:52:23 AM

Speaking of colors, Zelda without any lighting (likefew of the pictures) look odd. Her tiara and shoulder pads look rusted.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30858: Dec 27th 2013 at 6:54:13 AM

[up][up]Isn't Hilda's hair a little brighter than that? But yeah that looks cool. As soon as I first saw Hilda I was like "Zelda needs this as a palette swap.".

edited 27th Dec '13 6:55:20 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#30859: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:04:07 AM

I'm kinda grateful Mr. Sakurai and the dev team is taking a break... maybe? Hopefully. He's been working a lot on Sm4sh, he and his crew both.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30860: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:11:58 AM

Is it just me, or does Sakurai secretly hate PAL territories?

I noticed there is no link to the Brawl Dojo on the PAL page, and that it was there on the Japanese and American pages. So I looked at every language version of the Smash Bros site, and the PAL page is the only page that lacks a link to the Dojo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#30861: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:15:14 AM

[up]Well, he did let you guys use Golden Hammers wherever. I doubt he hates y'all THAT much.

edited 27th Dec '13 7:15:50 AM by NesClassic

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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#30862: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:17:16 AM

[up]Hm? How do you mean?

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#30863: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:21:29 AM

You know how in Brawl, some challenges were designed so you couldn't use a Golden Hammer to skip them?

The PAL versions remove that, so the Golden Hammers let you skip any challenge you want.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#30864: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:21:53 AM

[up][up][up]Well I never used them at all; every tile I broke was legit, so nyeh!

edited 27th Dec '13 7:22:00 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#30865: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:26:36 AM

[up][up]I didn't know that, actually. Of course, I pretty much never used my Golden Hammers there because I wanted to unlock everything legitimately (a lost cause if there ever was one!), so that might be why I don't know.

[up]No one likes a sore winner.

edited 27th Dec '13 7:27:04 AM by Odd1

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#30866: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:29:27 AM

wild mass guessMasahiro Sakurai doesn't like PAL players because Magcargo did all the challenges without hammers, proving that the PAL reigon is better at games than Sakurai anticipated.wild mass guess

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30867: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:35:32 AM

Yes. It is all my fault. My need to do things the hard way has backfired!

What have I done?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#30868: Dec 27th 2013 at 7:56:55 AM

You worked your ass off and have quite a lot to show for it.

You did great!

Shadow?
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30869: Dec 27th 2013 at 8:09:48 AM

But now Sakurai has cursed us PALians by making us go to other language pages to get to the Dojo conveniently. I am a disgrace to the forefathers.

I wasn't serious last post

edited 27th Dec '13 8:10:01 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#30870: Dec 27th 2013 at 8:41:44 AM

[up]We must now exile you from your homeland. Collect what you neec, and then go.

I've decided. If we get one non-Classic series Mega Man song in the game, I want it to be this.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30871: Dec 27th 2013 at 8:48:31 AM

[up]Where shall I go? To the outerlands?

I didn't know that, actually. Of course, I pretty much never used my Golden Hammers there because I wanted to unlock everything legitimately (a lost cause if there ever was one!), so that might be why I don't know.

Trust me, it isn't. It's so satisfying to see that tile break after beating Boss Battles on Intense or clearing 15-Minute Brawl.

No one likes a sore winner.

I wasn't trying to brag, I was trying to show I didn't need Sakurai's reasoning. tongue

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30872: Dec 27th 2013 at 9:26:02 AM

^^ I really hope we got non-Classic Megaman music. If we do, I'd bet it's a shoe in that we'll get "Flutter vs Gesellschaft" (everybody loves rearranging that one).

I'd love a Megaman X medley, if only because it's probably the only way we'd get Sting Chameleon's theme in this game. And I want something from Battle Network - maybe one of these. Or maybe Alpha's theme.

edited 27th Dec '13 9:36:37 AM by KnownUnknown

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#30873: Dec 27th 2013 at 10:25:04 AM

[up][up]I don't possess the necessary skills to do all those, try as I might, and I don't have the time to work at it to compensate for that lack of skills. School and work takes up video game time from me.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#30874: Dec 27th 2013 at 10:28:26 AM

I haven't used my Golden Hammers because they're Too Awesome to Use. sad

edited 27th Dec '13 10:28:36 AM by TheSpaceJawa

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30875: Dec 27th 2013 at 11:04:42 AM

I used a few Golden Hammers because I had nothing else to use them on (I had four smashable challenges left, and four hammers, so I just got lazy). I've completed all of those challenges legitimately since then, though.

The only one that lasted a while was "beat 100-man brawl with everyone", and that was more due to lack of trying than actual difficulty.

For what it's worth, I have every Notice in the game except the "play X matches" ones, which I have almost 10000 of. So at least I know I have legitimately cleared every challenge. If the next game has Golden Hammers, though, I won't be using any.

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