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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#30651: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:19:59 PM

[up][up]To be fair, Zeldas and Links tend to be fairly interchangeable, personality-wise.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30652: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:21:00 PM

I also correctly predicted they wouldn't reveal Sheik at the same time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30653: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:25:50 PM

^^ I think it's really funny that Sakurai seems to be playing up Zelda as The Comically Serious in his photos. My experience with the Zelda franchise isn't too deep, but I never thought of her as that kind of character.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30654: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:34:41 PM

I'm kinda glad Zelda has her appearance from Twilight Princess again. I was wondering whether they'd still use it considering how they came up with a different appearance for her in Skyward Sword.

But now that that concern's out of the picture, this is awesome. And what the heck, cue the foaming mouth guy! [down]

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#30655: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:45:22 PM

I'm just happy she's still a brunette. Otherwise, I'd have gotten BLONDE OVERLOAD.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#30656: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:51:08 PM

I think the Phantom is a move (it's pink, which they only are if Zelda is controlling them) and that Sheik is not returning. It seems like they would have been revealed at the same time if she was. Guess we'll have to wait for a trailer, or more pictures to see if there's a gap in her moveset or not.

Vgm3 This is the Monado's power! from Miami, Florida Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#30657: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:52:38 PM

THEY INTEGRATED THE PHANTOM YES

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#30658: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:52:55 PM

Sheik wasn't revealed at the same time in Brawl. And that Phantom looks too unwieldy to be a move. It lines up well as being an AT.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30659: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:53:47 PM

I like that they used the brown hair from TP again. It helps distinguish her from Peach more.

As for Zelda/Sheik, I'd point out that back in Brawl's hype days, Sheik was revealed far after Zelda's reveal (Zelda was an early reveal, Sheik was literally the last reveal before launch). Not to mention ZSS hasn't been revealed yet despite it being pretty apparent.

Not saying it's impossible for Sheik to have been dropped, but I think she's still a shoe-in.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30660: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:56:22 PM

^^ It looks like perfect for a side-b to me.

edited 25th Dec '13 11:56:33 PM by KnownUnknown

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#30661: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:57:13 PM

The Phantom looks very, very AT-ish.

And since Sheik is half of Zelda's schitck, I doubt she won't come back,e specially not after she's retained her TP design.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#30662: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:58:06 PM

Ah. I didn't realize that.

I'm not budging on the Phantom being a move, though. a) Sakurai would point out a new AT reveal. b) Phantoms only appear that way when Zelda is possessing them. So either ST Zelda is an Assist Trophy, which frankly sounds ridiculous, or that's a move.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30663: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:59:07 PM

If the Phantom was an Assist Trophy, why would they make it realistic looking like Zelda instead of Toon style? I think it's one of her moves.

Not to mention no other character images feature Assist Trophies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#30664: Dec 25th 2013 at 11:59:19 PM

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Or, you know, a cleverly-timed snapshot of Zelda doing an attack or a taunt as the Phantom Assist Trophy takes a swing.

I mean, let's get real, here. What are the actual odds that they'd retool Zelda to this extent? In a way that would either remove Sheik or one of her 3 Goddesses spells? And involve something from Spirit Tracks despite her being from Ocarina? And in a way that seems to step on Rosalina's puppetmaster toes?

Also, another important sign of Zelda possessing a phantom is glowing yellow eyes in the helmet.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:00:49 AM by Enlong

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30665: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:01:24 AM

[up]What makes you think one new move equals a retool? Does that mean Bowser was retooled in Brawl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#30666: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:04:11 AM

[up][up][up] Weirdly, I think that's also a good point. It would look more similar to Toon Link if it was unrelated to Zelda.

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What are the actual odds that they'd retool Zelda to this extent?

They shouldn't be leaving characters exactly as they've been. Changing things should be encouraged or else the series gets stagnant.

And involve something from Spirit Tracks despite her being from Ocarina?

-looks at hair- Nope. She's a mixture of various iterations, just like Link.

And in a way that seems to step on Rosalina's puppetmaster toes?

It's one move. Rosalina's entire moveset depends on her Luma.

In fact, I just thought of what it could be. Forward smash. Similar to Noob's ink clone in Mortal Kombat 9. It's a quick summon that disappears right away.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:04:23 AM by BadWolf21

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30667: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:04:41 AM

"Weirdly"? :/

edited 26th Dec '13 12:04:52 AM by MagcargoMan

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#30668: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:05:38 AM

Well, it'd certainly be a change, if nohting else. I'm gonna say that I chose my word poorly. I'd call it a retool if it was just a move being changed (like Flying Slam, or Upperdash Arm, for example), but I'd call it more of an overhaul if it were to, say, replace Transform, and make Zelda into a puppet character instead of a transforming one.

In any case, even replacing Din's Fire, for example, would be a bit of a shock to me, since she's kind of got that thematic hing going on with the htree spells.

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I was making no statements as to wheher the character should be chnged. I'd love to believe that it isn't just a clever screenshot with an assist trophy, myself. What I was asking was whether you think that they'd actually do this.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:07:59 AM by Enlong

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30669: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:09:01 AM

I really have no idea what move it is. I too think she should keep all three spells. And I also think she should keep Transform.

And it can't be a Final Smash because the screen isn't all dark and stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#30670: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:09:16 AM

I'm just happy she's still a brunette. Otherwise, I'd have gotten BLONDE OVERLOAD.

Not too fond of brown hair in general, it's too common. But her hair's a nice sandy brown, which looks better.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#30671: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:09:29 AM

[up][up][up][up] You and I very rarely agree.

[up][up][up] Yes, I do. It's a new team working on the game, and the reason Sakurai keeps saying each Smash Bros is his last one is because he doesn't like covering the same ground. He'd change something in a heartbeat if he had an idea he liked better.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:11:13 AM by BadWolf21

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#30672: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:11:46 AM

They shouldn't be leaving characters exactly as they've been. Changing things should be encouraged or else the series gets stagnant.
But change for the sake of change is alienating and can ruin a good thing.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:12:02 AM by Pulse

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#30673: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:12:50 AM

[up][up]I know, but I thought it was insinuating me having a point was weird.

Forget it. Moving on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#30674: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:13:32 AM

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I can't either. For the moment, I'm assuming it's a humorous machinima-style screenshot, as with some of the others, meant to be an interesing scene rather than an indication of her moveset.

this would at least mean we have a new Assist Trophy, though.

edited 26th Dec '13 12:14:01 AM by Enlong

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#30675: Dec 26th 2013 at 12:13:45 AM

goddamn shes pretty


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