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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#30301: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:34:21 AM

In getting a bit worried about Mewtwo. Rosalina appears to be using some of his attributes, and I'm wondering if this isn't an example of repurposing ideas.

Then again, I was worrying the same about Sonic, because of Rush Coil, and we know how that turned out. Still, though.

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#30302: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:36:09 AM

[up]So Rosalina is the next Lucario then?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#30303: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:39:20 AM

So if Mewtwo got in how would they work in the Mega Evolutions? There's two, so it can't just be a final smash transformation (unless it could, who knows?).

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#30304: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:41:33 AM

Final Smash could be a combo attack as Mewtwo X, and then he becomes Mewtwo Y to perform a massive Psystrike.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#30305: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:48:08 AM

Xbox will have one evolution, Playstation will have the othe-

I mean, the 3DS version will... you see what I'm getting at here.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#30306: Dec 23rd 2013 at 6:58:59 AM

I am going to be honest, I never got why people wanted Toad. He doesn't really have any feats that set him apart from the Bros (he is runs faster. wooo) and seems to be just barely a distinct character (the same way Yoshi is, but Yoshi at least does different stuff). Even if Toad was playable, just what would they do with him?

edited 23rd Dec '13 6:59:28 AM by Otherarrow

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#30307: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:10:59 AM

He'd have to be taller, his limbs longer, and he'd be throwing punches and ground-pounding and well... it'd look weird.

But I said the same thing about Rosalina. Hey, Rosalina's getting in because she's a current fan-favorite, and she's been playable at least once. Toad's been playable for awhile and he's a series veteran - plus he's got similar abilities to Mario and Luigi.

I think it's for a team photo, you know, having the Super Mario Bros 2 cast together and playable.

No idea what his Final Smash would be though.

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#30308: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:25:36 AM

[up]x2

They could make him a faster Mario. There. Now he has a reason for people to pick him.

edited 23rd Dec '13 7:36:20 AM by Chariot

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#30309: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:26:51 AM

If you think about it, wouldn't Toad just be short Sonic?

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#30310: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:32:52 AM

[up][up]I'm pretty sure people want to avoid a Moveset Clone. Unless you mean something different?

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#30311: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:35:42 AM

RE: Tall Rosie: I wish Peach wasn't hunched over so we could get a better comparison between her and Rosalina (or they could have just done a different version of the old height comparison screenshot instead), but yeah, I think it was expected that she would be tall (which for some reason makes her a heavyweight character in Mario Kart). Hopefully her being lightweight in Smash will make up for any potential "brokeness" she may end having.

I've never played the Mario Galaxy games. Was Rosalina ever explicitly referred to as a goddess? Or are people just projecting because her abilities in both games give a deity-like quality to her?

RE:"Losing" Daisy: As a fan of hers, I'm fine with her not being included because I can't really think of a way for Daisy to differentiate herself from Peach, who already has moves that reference the sports spin-offs. I remember talking to a friend about her and there was a suggestion that she utilize moves from other NES games (such as her moveset being based on Punch Out, Wrecking Crew, Kung Fu, etc) but I said that that would just piss off people who wanted the actual characters in the game, especially since Daisy seems to have a noticeable hatedom.

She's better off as an Assist Trophy, if anything, like Waluigi.

RE: Toad: The fungus had breakdancing maneuvers in Mario Strikers. I'm pretty sure they could have come up with a moveset for him. That said, I'm in the camp that can't really see how he'd work.

I think making him "a faster Mario" is redundant with Luigi already playing that role as a Mario variant. If they're going to do that, they may as well bring back Dr Mario instead.

edited 23rd Dec '13 8:16:59 AM by Customer

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#30312: Dec 23rd 2013 at 7:58:55 AM

[up]She is never stated to be a goddess but didn't she reset the universe in Super Mario Galaxy or I might be remembering wrong.

So people think because she could reset it (If that is correct) that she created the universe the the Mario series.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#30313: Dec 23rd 2013 at 8:02:11 AM

@Rosie's power: She's never refered to as a goddess (nor as a princess for that matter), but it is heavily implied by her role in the universe and the kind of stuff she pulls off that she at least is closest thing the Mario saga has to a deity.

[up]Sheik'd. And is not necessarily how you say it. Going by the storybook in the original Galaxy, she might have "obtained" or "been promoted" to the power she has now.

edited 23rd Dec '13 8:04:09 AM by Elbruno

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#30314: Dec 23rd 2013 at 8:12:16 AM

At the very least, we know she is immortal, given that her time frame for returning to Mario's world is measured in hundreds of years, and that she was originally supposed to be Peach's ancestor.

It wouldn't be a stretch, given what we see her do, to assume she is at least some sort of minor deity.

edited 23rd Dec '13 8:13:24 AM by ultimatepheer

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#30315: Dec 23rd 2013 at 8:31:54 AM

She does seem to have started as a normal human before becoming whatever she is now. If there's ever a Galaxy 3 I'd like it to explore how she obtained her power. The storybook seems to stop short of that stage of her life.

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#30316: Dec 23rd 2013 at 1:17:46 PM

Rosalina has, in her own words, seen the death and rebirth of the universe several times. There is definitely something going on with her. Still an odd character choice though. I could even get behind the whole "Mario is Nintendo's mascot and Mr. Video game so throw in six of them" if Nintendo did not have a hundred dozen games more or less unrelated to Mario in its library, some of which became franchises in their own right.

And no, I am not saying that in reference to any one series in particular. Not at all.

edited 23rd Dec '13 2:50:45 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#30317: Dec 23rd 2013 at 1:28:54 PM

There's one common thread between pretty much all of the franchises they use for characters, though, and it's that they're either consistently strong sellers or have huge, dedicated fanbases, usually both, though. Custom Robo and Starfy aren't exactly money-makers for Nintendo (though I'd pin that more on a lack of marketing than anything—I don't think I would've ever even heard of those franchises if not for the internet).

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#30318: Dec 23rd 2013 at 1:42:26 PM

Oh they are, in Japan, or used to be in the case of Custom Robo. I did not use the term franchise lightly. I mean, if we just go by offshore sales Earthbound was nothing special either and when was the last time Ice Climber made them any money, much less had a screaming, sequel demanding fan base?

(I just get the feeling Starfy will not be getting any spots till Rosalina&Luma are off the roster under the logic of being too similar (or "too punchy").

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#30319: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:12:06 PM

So, will Rosalina without Lumas be called Nosalina (kinda like Nolimar), or something else?

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#30320: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:15:29 PM

I mean, if we just go by offshore sales Earthbound was nothing special either
That's why I also mentioned "huge, dedicated fanbase." And Ice Climber is an important part of Nintendo history, so that's sort of a Grandfather Clause for it.

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#30321: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:20:28 PM

What did Ice Climber do important in Nintendo history, again? To my knowledge it was one among many of Nintendo's older NES classics, but nothing important.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#30322: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:22:08 PM

It was a launch title for the NES, their first console.

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#30323: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:26:48 PM

RE: Goddess: Thanks for the responses. I knew there was something she did that gave Rosalina that status among gamers, but wasn't quite sure what.

Is she still Peach's ancestor or was that just a concept that never panned out?

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#30325: Dec 23rd 2013 at 2:28:59 PM

EDIT: So much butthurt about Rosalina on Game FA Qs. [lol]
Honestly speaking, given there were multiple popular possibilities for a Mario newcomer,there being people who would be unhappy about Rosalina (despite her popularity) getting in over other Mario characters is not that surprising. But then again, the same kind of principal can easily be applied for many other potential newcomers. the best thing to do is to just not care.

edited 23rd Dec '13 2:33:20 PM by KSoniK


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