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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29976: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:45:48 PM

I really hope that if he gets an alt costume it's Outset Link and not Conductor Link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#29977: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:46:45 PM

He can get both. Don't see a reason why not. It has practically no effect on that stage since one is moving around. He might have "slight" advantage, enough to potentially ban that costume in tourneys on that stage, but that's doubtful as is.

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OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#29978: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:46:50 PM

I love Pajama Link and Conductor Link equally, and I think he should get both.

Also Sakurai has gone on record saying that Toon Link is "true" Link so i doubt he'll be cut. I'm fine with him being more unique though.

nyo ho ho
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#29979: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:46:50 PM

Why not both?

That said, conductor Link is a stage element of hte Spirit Train stage, so he's probably not gonna have that costume.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:47:46 PM by Enlong

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29980: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:48:19 PM

[up]Because there's no way everyone will get two and it would feel wrong is some got two and others didn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#29981: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:49:12 PM

...What if regular Link was decloned instead of Toon Link? I mean, technically it wouldn't be decloning because he was the original here and Toon Link was copying his look, but still.

It'd mean they'd still be two distinct characters and Sakurai could keep his "true" Link.

"We're home, Chewie."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29982: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:49:32 PM

To compromise, instead of making a younger and older Link, they could make just one that's in-between their two ages. Kinda like he is in some games IIRC. And make them not as realistic looking as TP Link but not as cartoony as Toon Link.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:50:59 PM by CassidyTheDevil

OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#29983: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:49:36 PM

[up][up][up]Why? I mean they're only polygons, they're feelings can't be hurt.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:50:02 PM by OdieFromTheOz

nyo ho ho
TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#29984: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:50:05 PM

Also Sakurai has gone on record saying that Toon Link is "true" Link so i doubt he'll be cut. I'm fine with him being more unique though.

If they really think that Mini Link is the "true" Link, then why do they feel a need to keep Link classic around? Or for that matter, just call Mini Link "Link" and give Link Classic some title before his name?

edited 20th Dec '13 8:50:30 PM by TheSpaceJawa

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29985: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:50:36 PM

[up][up][up][up]I don't like that at all. Why does the original have to lose his moves instead of the one who copied him?

Also Sakurai has gone on record saying that Toon Link is "true" Link so i doubt he'll be cut.

What. Link please.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:50:54 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#29986: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:50:36 PM

I like that idea, Zarek. The Young Links use their specials well and seem to work with that moveset greatly. Adult Link never worked well with his current moveset. Improving him with changes might be the better way to go.

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#29987: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:51:23 PM

[up][up][up][up][up] ...ALBW Link?

But in that case, I'd rather have Ravio as playable. I mean, the shop descriptions have little images of him using the items he's selling, so it's not htat much of a stretch.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:51:44 PM by Enlong

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29988: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:51:54 PM

There is no way Sakurai thinks Toon Link is the true Link. The adult one is always unlocked first, revealed first, and given the generic name of Link while the others get an adjective. He's clearly meant to be the default.

Zarek: The weapons Link uses are more commonly associated with him whereas Toon Link is more associated with stuff like the Deku Leaf, Skull Hammer, Whip, etc.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#29989: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:52:51 PM

Adult Link never worked well with his current moveset. Improving him with changes might be the better way to go.

Or, you know, they could make his current moveset work for him. How can that be any harder than giving him a brand new one?

edited 20th Dec '13 8:53:05 PM by TheSpaceJawa

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29990: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:53:34 PM

Why? I mean they're only polygons, they're feelings can't be hurt.

Because it's biased and I don't like that kind of imbalance. It's like how I don't like how in Brawl some characters have less than six palette swaps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29991: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:53:39 PM

Why is it so hard to just make Link as acrobatic as Toon Link?

Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#29992: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:53:42 PM

If they really think that Mini Link is the "true" Link, then why do they feel a need to keep Link classic around?

It's not they, it's Sakurai. It's not just him working on the games.

And both Link and Toon Link are important for representing the Zelda series as a whole, as they both represent the two different "kinds" of Link — the adultier Link (TP, SS, parts of OOT) and the smaller, cuter Link (WW, PH, other parts of OOT).

"We're home, Chewie."
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29993: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:53:45 PM

ALBW Link?

Kinda, but I don't quite like his look. Close to the Zelda tech demo.

OdieFromTheOz KING OF EXPLODO KILLS from Shadow Mosses Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
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#29994: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:53:46 PM

Apparently Sakurai didn't have much knowledge of the zelda franchise when he made Smash 64 and just sort of threw Link in based on notes. When Melee came out he had more experience with the series and put in Young Link. Since most of the Links are young, and Toon Link is essentially young Link, he considers him the "true" Link.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:55:12 PM by OdieFromTheOz

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29995: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:55:32 PM

Most of the Links are not young. All of them are teenagers or older with the exception of Toon Link who has only been in five of the games.

[up][up][up]And that's perfectly valid. It doesn't mean he should be a clone.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:56:04 PM by Kostya

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#29996: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:55:33 PM

@Odie: Just a correction., but Melee introduced Young Link. Brawl changed him out for Toon Link.

[up]"Young" as in "child", not "teen" or "young adult".

edited 20th Dec '13 8:57:04 PM by Customer

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#29997: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:55:41 PM

I don't remember him stating anything about Toon Link.

Young Link (Classic Mode, Trophy #287)
Link's younger incarnation is often considered to be the true Link: he was a young boy in the very first Legend of Zelda game, and he has appeared as a youth in most of the subsequent games. Since his debut on the original NES in 1987, Link's appearance has changed over and over again, each time adding to the mystique of his incomparable story.

That's his Trophy in Melee. Which he approved of. I'm thinking he thinks that's the general fan consensus, that's all.

[up][up] I'm pretty sure Young Link in OOT and MM was around 11-12 years old. Maybe 10. But 16? Nope. That might've been perhaps the first game. 16 is around his "adult" age. Which is sometimes 17.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:57:21 PM by Irene

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29998: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:56:18 PM

Apparently Sakurai didn't have much knowledge of the zelda franchise when he made Smash 64 and just sort of threw Link in based on notes. When Melee came out he had more experience with the series and put in Toon Link.

When Melee came out he had more experience with the series and made Ganondorf a clone of Captain Falcon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29999: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:56:43 PM

Who thinks of Young Link as the true Link? Most people are mad if Link is made younger.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
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#30000: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:57:12 PM

[up]x8

By that logic there should be two Zeldas as well. Which I'd be fine with but if not I would like them to get rid of Link and just keep Toon Link.

edited 20th Dec '13 8:57:31 PM by Chariot


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