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Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#29826: Dec 20th 2013 at 1:41:59 AM

FRIDAY NIGHT ARRIVES WITHOUT A SPACESHIP
SUNDAY MORNING CREEPING LIKE THE SUN
MONDAY'S LUMA'S LEARNED TO DRIVE THE FACESHIP
SEEEEE MARIO RUUUUUN

oh damn this awkward pagetopper

edited 20th Dec '13 1:42:53 AM by Odd1

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#29827: Dec 20th 2013 at 3:19:01 AM

That comment was less "The Complainer Is Always Wrong" and more "The Complainer Is Really Goddamn Annoying"

So is always defending stuff no matter how controversial. Not you, but there are some who do.

Honestly, complaining about complaining is more annoying. tongue

If I were a Nintendo executive, though, I would lean on him to opt for Bayonetta herself, to get some of that Smash-popularity blowback to support the bigger game in the same year as B2 will come out, rather than a nod to the game that came and went (and tanked in sales) without shaking too much up.

I was a Nintendo executive, I wouldn't do Executive Meddling.

Not that I'm on board the idea of adding characters from this 101 game, but size really shouldn't be that big an issue. They sized up Olimar, They've probably sized down other characters, and sizing down is what people are currently expecting of Ridley as they hope that he makes it in.

And they will enjoy the sight of Ridley's neck being the thickness of a toothpick.

I acknowledge some things (especially stages) are basically promotions, but Rosalina doesn't feel that way to me.

I mean, she herself has been being pushed a lot by Nintendo, but I'm attributing her inclusion and promotion to popularity over recency. Not that she's going to be leaving the Mario series any time soon...

Agreed. Advertising? As if! Rosalina has been around for six years now. She was popular since her first appeareance too.

Now if she was added in Brawl, that would be advertising...

But that's getting off-topic. I want a Paper Kammy and Paper Kamek trophy as well.

How about a normal Kamek trophy first?

I'm pretty sure I made this clear. I hope Meta Knight comes back.

Dude, stop stressing about it. Sakurai is not gonna boot one of the most important Kirby characters.

Actually, a supply drop from ROB 64 would be cool.

That's actually pretty cool. It reminds me of one of Emmett Graves' supers.

[up][up] & [up] - What the heck are you two on about?

edited 20th Dec '13 6:34:02 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#29828: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:11:32 AM

Agreed. Advertising? As if! Rosalina has been around for six years now. She was popular since her first appeareance too.
Exactly. Rosa's been in a few Mario games pretty much since her first appearance. I'm sort of surprised that many people are reacting to her like she hasn't been cameoing at all.

To be honest, despite who I wanted from the Mario-verse to make it, I was expecting either Bowser Jr or Rosalina to be seriously added.

I don't know if I can see myself maining Rosalina, despite my preference for team characters. I tend not to handle puppet-style characters all that well...

edited 20th Dec '13 8:12:09 AM by Customer

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#29830: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:31:47 AM

That's because Rosalina has become a standard since Galaxy. She's been in every Mario Kart since her first appearance, (8 brings the count up to three), she cameoed in Galaxy 2, she's the fifth playable character in a full Mario game, and now she's being added to Smash Bros. She's not advertising specifically, but she's become a prominent Nintendo character in her own right, making regular appearances in major games.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29831: Dec 20th 2013 at 8:44:58 AM

I wonder why Rosalina is getting so much attention though. I know she's a major character in Galaxy but I'm surprised that they continue to include her in things. She seemed like a one-shot at the time but now she's becoming as much of a staple as the main four heroes. At this point she's probably going to appear in the next Mario Party and she might even usurp Daisy as the secondary princess.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29832: Dec 20th 2013 at 9:19:55 AM

Honestly, Rosalina is much more significant than Daisy has ever been. And she's a lot more distinguished in terms of her abilities.

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
Ridley and Ridley
#29833: Dec 20th 2013 at 9:27:06 AM

I dunno, the last 3D Mario before Galaxy introduced Bowser Jr., who also started being included in everything afterward, so it doesn't seem that suprising that the same is happening to Rosalina.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#29834: Dec 20th 2013 at 10:10:43 AM

Rosalina and Bowser Jr., unlike characters like Daisy and Waluigi, don't have an obvious analogue elsewhere in the franchise. They're similar to Peach and the Koopalings, respectively, but they have significantly different roles. Unlike Daisy and Waluigi who were created (or, in Daisy's case, re-introduced) to simply fill out a roster as carbon copies of characters that already existed.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29835: Dec 20th 2013 at 10:34:43 AM

I know Waluigi is a counterpart, but carbon copy? He doesn't look or act much like Luigi at all. Wario is more similar to Waluigi though. But Wario is kind of a fun villain, while Waluigi is more of a loser.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#29836: Dec 20th 2013 at 10:37:06 AM

That's something that occurred later- When Waluigi and Daisy were (re)introduced, they were basically a tall, thin Wario and a brunette Peach. They diverged a great deal after that, but at first, that's what they were.

I sure said that!
GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Wants Captain N for SSBU
#29837: Dec 20th 2013 at 10:49:15 AM

Is Waluigi really more than just that guy who basically is a filler character or a decoy antagonist?

Signatures are for lamers.
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29838: Dec 20th 2013 at 10:56:49 AM

No, he's not that important, but yes he has a specific and distinct personality.

edited 20th Dec '13 11:03:27 AM by CassidyTheDevil

Halberdier17 We Are With You Zack Snyder from Western Pennsylvania Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Dating Catwoman
We Are With You Zack Snyder
#29839: Dec 20th 2013 at 11:00:25 AM

[up][up]Waluigi was created by Camelot for Mario Tennis in 2000.

Wario and Daisy were both created for the Super Mario Land series on the Gameboy.

Batman Ninja more like Batman's Bizarre Adventure
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#29840: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:12:08 PM

Honestly, Rosalina is much more significant than Daisy has ever been. And she's a lot more distinguished in terms of her abilities.

Exactly, Daisy has appeared in one platformer and then stayed in the spin-offs. There's no way Daisy should be playable in Smash.

Honestly, Daisy, you shouldn't be crying because someone got in over you in Smash; you should be crying because it was your fault for not doing anything significant since your first appearance.

edited 20th Dec '13 4:12:21 PM by MagcargoMan

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#29841: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:14:23 PM

Well, if you consider some of the Mario tracks and stuff, her and Luigi are a very visible couple.
Not that I disagree. Daisy is a Peach costume at best.
I didn't expect Rosalina would be playable, but I don't contest it. She's not a bad character and she's pulled a unique style into the game.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#29842: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:17:34 PM

Watch Rosalina's down B wind up being Mario's former spin move.tongue

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#29843: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:20:17 PM

You know, this whole thing made we realise how wanting Waluigi as the sixth Mario rep instead of Rosalina was stupid of me. My choice was always Bowser Jr and Waluigi. I didn't want Rosalina for having a smaller roll, but then I realised how Waluigi doesn't even have a real roll at all. The most notable thing he's done was attempt to take over the world in a dance minigame. Rosalina is the character I had not realised was more important. She was the character who appeared more in platformers. The one who I never would have imagined would have such a unique fighting style.

So if there is a sixth rep, I want it be Bowser Jr. Sorry Waluigi.

[up][up]Honestly, Daisy and Luigi's relationship seems to a "Take our word for it" kind of thing from Nintendo. They reference it on her Melee trophy and on her circuit in Mario Kart Wii, but they never seem to hang out often; their apparent relationship barely exists outside of extra material. Honestly it just feels like a case of Nintendo going "Luigi is Mario's equivalent, Daisy is Peach's, therefore they are a couple like them".

[up]Please no, don't be so.

edited 20th Dec '13 4:25:12 PM by MagcargoMan

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#29844: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:22:15 PM

[up]Spinning more than once isn't true to the original game...tongue

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#29845: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:23:35 PM

[up]Heh.

You've never heard the song Lady Madonna?

Nope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#29846: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:48:04 PM

[up]Have you never listened to the Beatles before? D:

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29847: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:49:38 PM

That's what old people listen to.

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#29848: Dec 20th 2013 at 4:58:30 PM

I really hope you're joking.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29849: Dec 20th 2013 at 5:07:32 PM

There's nothing wrong with being really old.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
Hooray! Bubble Party!
#29850: Dec 20th 2013 at 5:08:26 PM

[up][up][up][up]I've heard some of their songs, I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

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