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demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#29226: Dec 13th 2013 at 6:43:15 AM

Coincidentally enough, we are in fact talking about the next Smash, as opposed to whatever kind of outside canon you're trying to push.

On that note, the bit about Falco dual wielding guns is actually a pretty interesting point. I for one never really thought that much about it beyond Rule of Cool, though.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29227: Dec 13th 2013 at 6:46:56 AM

Coincidentally enough, we are in fact talking about the next Smash, as opposed to whatever kind of outside canon you're trying to push.

Ignoring the unnecessary sarcasm there, I'm saying it'd be better to base the character's off stuff from their own games, rather than stuff they did in an Adventure Mode not canon to their own games.

Wolf was playable for the first time in Assault. Wolf was the best character in Assault stat-wise. He's only playable in the multiplayer mode. The multiplayer mode involves at lot for guns.

It makes freaking sense.

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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#29228: Dec 13th 2013 at 8:28:18 AM

So... is Project M discussion going to be diverted 'here' from now on?

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How would that be even remotely fair? Mash the B button and Falco pulls out two guns and goes to town on some unlucky bastard? Talk about unfair. Might as well give Fox a Landmast... Falco an Arwing.

edited 13th Dec '13 8:35:24 AM by FOFD

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29229: Dec 13th 2013 at 8:33:45 AM

[up]Yeah. It would be best.

Sorry for the double post and for changing the topic, but I really wanted to post this before someone brings up another topic.

Also, we need more alternate costumes.

Yes. Yes we do.

You know, I don't think I've ever got to do one of these "list the alternate costumes" posts, so I will now take the opportunity to do so. I'm only gonna do the ones for the confirmed characters.

Costumes:

  • Mario - Dr. Mario
  • Luigi - ??? (Yes, I know everyone says Mr. L, but I think it feels weird to have a costume from a game where the artstyle is completely different. To be honest I think it doesn't work as well on 3D Luigi)
  • Peach - Sports Attire (Admittedly this would cause some visual oddities for animations where she holds onto her dress, but I feel it's the best choice)
  • Bowser - Dry Bowser
  • Donkey Kong - ???
  • Link - Ordon Link (I think it looks better than Link's Knight's Academy attire. It's more detailed, KA is too plain in comparison.)
  • Toon Link - Outset Link
  • Samus - Fusion Suit (Sorry Fusion Suit palette swap)
  • Pit - ??? (I'd say the armour he wears when wielding the Three Sacred Treasures but that's probably gonna be his Final Smash.)
  • Kirby - ???
  • Olimar - Louie (No, I don't care if some people think the costumes should not be other characters, there isn't really anything else to choose. Louie's never gonna be playable anyway. As for Pikmar, we've only seen the top of his head.)
  • Fox - ??? (Not Expert Mode Shades. Simply adding sunglasses isn't different enough. Also, my cynicism wants me to say that if Falco gets cut (and he should) so Krystal can get in, he can be Fox's alternate costume. evil grin)
  • Pikachu - ??? (This is why Pikachu should have had palette swaps instead of hats, so having an actual alt costume would stand out more or be easier to pick)
  • Marth - Lucina (Masked)
  • Sonic - Racing Suit from Sonic Avdenture 2 Battle or Sonic's Race Suit from Sonic Rivals 2 (Classic Sonic has different proportions to Modern Sonic so it wouldn't work. If you changed those proportions then you'd be kinda missing the point of Classic Sonic.)
  • Villager - Female Villager
  • Wii Fit Trainer - Male Wii Fit Trainer (Well this one is pretty much all but confirmed tongue).
  • Mega Man - Chibi version of X, Volnutt or .EXE (Forgive me, my knowledge on Mega Man is limited.)

As for palette swaps, we need a new Blue Team Samus colour. Bowser should get Dark Bowser as a palette, Wii Fit Trainer's Green Team palette should be a lime green to resemble the colour scheme of Wii Fit, Mega Man should have his Red Team palette be Proto Man, and Sonic should ditch all of his crappy palletes from Brawl and have Red Team reference Knuckles, Green Team reference Jet, and also have Black and Silver palettes representing Shadow and Silver. I'm not sure what the last one should be. Could be pink for Amy because she's a hedgehog, but I think the Pink would look weird on Sonic. Yellow for Tails would look too similar to Super Sonic. I'd personally like Purple just because it looks cool for him (just pass it off as a Big the Cat reference tongue).

Pikachu should now have palettes too. I like these ones. Just replace the purple one with a Pachirisu palette and we're gold.

edited 13th Dec '13 8:39:34 AM by MagcargoMan

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#29230: Dec 13th 2013 at 8:43:27 AM

I think I have said before, but I really doubt that only selected few characters will get alternate costumes.

Though if I have to leave ONE suggestion, I think MegaMan should get his armorless look (it wouldn't be right if his alternate costume would be another MegaMan to be honest).

And Pikachu's alternate costume will just be him having heart-shaped tail end

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#29231: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:01:45 AM

Pit - ??? (I'd say the armour he wears when wielding the Three Sacred Treasures but that's probably gonna be his Final Smash.)

Pit could have a Light Team/Dark Team Fighter costume, maybe.

Or Dark Pit colors + different voice acting, but whether or not that counts as a "costume" is debatable.

Although I'd really like it if, given a Dark Pit palette swap at the least (which I'm sure we'll get), the victory announcement says "Dark Pit" instead of "Pit." It'd be a nice touch.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29232: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:11:34 AM

@Mag: Those are good ideas. :3

Donkey Kong - ???

Hmm, how about him in a business suit?

Another one: a full Shadow costume for Sonic is a non-brainer.

For Zelda: A Tetra costume.

Mr. Game & Watch: Ms. Game & Watch, AKA Mr. Game & Watch in a dress.

[up]Also, maybe make your attacks have the darkness effect.

edited 13th Dec '13 9:14:47 AM by CassidyTheDevil

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#29233: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:24:47 AM

Actually, I think Mega Man having a Quint costume would be cool, and it technically doesn't even get into "but he is a different character" (not that anyone cares).

On the other hand, who remembers Quint?

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#29234: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:28:26 AM

I like the female Pikachu idea. I hadn't even thought of that.
In my mind, Mega Man's alt should be Break Man/Proto Man/Blues (with face mask/normal/preferred name).
I have no problem with Mr. L. Project M made it work, so I believe Nintendo definitely could.
Princess Peach could be Daisy or Rosalina.

Oh, if you can't tell, I have no problem having costumes of other characters. Especially if I think they have no chance of being playable.

Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#29235: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:34:41 AM

Donkey Kong could have the Punch Out attire like in Project M.

zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#29236: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:38:22 AM

I remember Quint! I just like Blues more.

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#29237: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:38:28 AM

Okay, the reason why I chose that costume for MegaMan] because not only is it something directly from him but seeing any other [=MegaMan in such a style would be weird.

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#29238: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:45:36 AM

Mega Man could have helmetless and Met hat variants.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29239: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:48:52 AM

Megaman could have a Roll costume, but keeping his arm-cannon.

tectonicRobot Since: Jul, 2011
#29240: Dec 13th 2013 at 9:56:43 AM

In regards to TPPR's thoughts on Toon Ganondorf:

Personally, I find Toon Ganondorf to be the coolest of the Ganondorf's. His speeches had a stateliness and power and passion that he lacks in other Zelda games. Besides, it's the only game where he's actually sort of fast.

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#29241: Dec 13th 2013 at 10:02:53 AM

[up][up] What.

[up] My problem with Toon Ganondorf ishe is too darn bulky! I am not going touse "fat" but he is too bulky for my standards

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#29242: Dec 13th 2013 at 10:13:49 AM

Acrofatic is a trope, though. Personally, I'd rather we get Ganon (as in the pig-man wizard) over another Ganondorf, but that's just me.

Also, I think Giga Bowser is awesome, but I'd rather he be a boss again rather than Bowser's Final Smashnote , especially when Bowser has plenty of inherent Mario-verse-only abilities that could Final'd up.

edited 13th Dec '13 10:32:48 AM by Customer

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#29243: Dec 13th 2013 at 10:28:43 AM

Speaking of that trope, Ganon is actually rather freakishly fast even though he looks like fat pig :P I blame teleport spamming

tectonicRobot Since: Jul, 2011
#29244: Dec 13th 2013 at 10:57:30 AM

Pig Ganon could be cool.

The main reason I'd prefer Toon Ganondorf over another Ganondorf is that we might finally get a customized moveset for him and his double sword action, not just Captain Falcon's set. Y'know what I'm saying?

I don't mind his bulk at all, myself.

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29245: Dec 13th 2013 at 11:04:09 AM

His bulk is why I prefer him. That and his cool robe. He just looks much more impressive.

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#29246: Dec 13th 2013 at 11:16:17 AM

I'd rather keep Ganon as a Final Smash.

I wouldn't be opposed to Toon Ganondorf being playable, though I'd rather they just implement some swordplay into regular Ganondorf. He can use swords, magic, and his fists.

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#29247: Dec 13th 2013 at 11:39:56 AM

ALTTP Ganon would be cool. Complete with cape, trident, and fire bats.

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#29248: Dec 13th 2013 at 12:00:48 PM

Luigi - ??? (Yes, I know everyone says Mr. L, but I think it feels weird to have a costume from a game where the artstyle is completely different. To be honest I think it doesn't work as well on 3D Luigi)
Oh thank God someone else agrees. I would give Luigi a Propeller Luigi alt, because 1)I like how the jumpsuit looks on Luigi, and 2)It looks a little ridiculous, so only fitting Luigi wears it.

So, Mr. Magcargo, I now shall go over the characters that I have different ideas on.

  • Donkey Kong I would give his Mystery Land attire. I like how safari!Donkey Kong looks.
  • There's some better options for Peach than sports attire, in my opinion. My idea is... Peach in a kimono. As seen in the Kyoto Cross Media Expreience 2009.
  • I actually agree on Pit, but in the event that the Three Sacred Treasures are his final smash the only other idea I have is, of all things, Shirtless Pit.
  • Mike Kirby. The headphones don't seem like they'd clip with that many of Kirby's hats, and I can't think of a better option.
  • I don't see any reason we can't flesh out Pikmar, but I wouldn't mind Louie. I just prefer Pikmar a little.
  • Adventures Fox. Why? I don't know, honestly.
  • Agreed on Pikachu needing palette swaps instead. My choice (should they actually do that) is Captain Pikachu from the TCG.
  • That could work for Marth, although I would use Heroes of Yore Marth instead. aka DLC!Marth.
  • For Mega Man; Quint. I don't care if you guys hate Quint.

Feel free to contest my ideas and provide reasons for why your idea is better and/or why mine sucks.waii

EDIT: I forgot Link. I'd give him the Twilight Princess Magic Armor. It's pretty dang fancy~

edited 13th Dec '13 12:16:18 PM by NesClassic

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#29249: Dec 13th 2013 at 12:18:05 PM

I think ALLTP Ganon would be a good choice for a boss.

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#29250: Dec 13th 2013 at 12:19:42 PM

Him or Yuga or The Imprisoned, if we're talking bosses.

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