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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29201: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:04:20 AM

[up][up]The whole time I was saying it should be Charizard's move that gets changed, not Bowser's.

edited 13th Dec '13 4:04:28 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29202: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:09:33 AM

Deeeerrp. But I am sure in Pokemon Flamethrower has been fire stream unless some one wants to prove wrong.

edited 13th Dec '13 4:11:46 AM by TPPR10

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#29203: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:11:41 AM

[up]Yes, but not like in Brawl. It's a wavy streamy pillar of flame in the games. Which is what I'm saying it should become.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29204: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:11:41 AM

It has been in the Anime. Which we know Sakurai looks at. No surprise he went with that depiction.

I'd prefer Bowser's changed since an actual Fireball sounds great for him. Not sure how it'd change if Giga Bowser is still his Final Smash. Maybe he can only fire 3 at a time before needing to recharge? And Giga either has infinite(till he reverts to normal) or can fire more, like 6 or something.

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#29205: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:12:38 AM

I think in the first two generations the animation showed the Pokemon shooting off a single flame and then it sort of exploding on the enemy, but in every other one I believe it's been a solid stream of fire.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29206: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:13:14 AM

[up][up]Bowser breathed streams of Fire in Super Mario 64.

And why does Bowser need his changed? He had it first.

[up]Look at it in Firered/Leafgreen.

edited 13th Dec '13 4:13:51 AM by MagcargoMan

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#29207: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:15:06 AM

Who gets it first is irrelevant to me. He also used small bursts of fire before that flame. Namely in how he fought in 2D, kind of like how he fights in 2D in Smash.

I find Charizard's version of Flamethrower extremely fitting for him. More than for Bowser.

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#29208: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:18:00 AM

I know Bowser had Fire Breath first, but I'd give him a long-range fireball that hovers along the ground ala Super Mario Bros..

Also, French Bulldog? ;_; Having grown up with Chihuahua and Friends, this saddens me.

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#29209: Dec 13th 2013 at 4:47:05 AM

Who knows if Charizard is even returning. He may not.

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#29210: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:15:02 AM

I'm okay with two characters having a similar move between them.

I mean, nobody's calling for Dedede to get a new neutral B move, or for Mega Man and Sonic to fight over their spring move.

Heck, we've shown that you can have radically different characters that happen to share similar B moves, like Fox and Wolf.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:15:30 AM by Enlong

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#29211: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:21:59 AM

[up][up][up][up]Whatever.

[up][up]Um, If Pokemon Trainer returns, out of his three pokemon Charizard is the one who's least likely to be cut.

I'm okay with two characters having a similar move between them

I'm not.

I mean, nobody's calling for Dedede to get a new neutral B move, or for Mega Man and Sonic to fight over their spring move.

Because A) Dedede having Inhale is faithful to the games, and B) Kirby's copying ability from his inhale is a massive difference.

And to be honest, I don't like how they both have similar spring moves. Although they do at least have some differences, whearas Charizard's Flamethower is blatantly a clone of Bowser's Fire Breath.

Heck, we've shown that you can have radically different characters that happen to share similar B moves, like Fox and Wolf.

And I still want Wolf to get a new moveset. He needs an arsenal from Star Fox Assault. It especially makes sense because he's a mercenary.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:39:34 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29212: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:24:45 AM

The only difference I see between Sonic's spring and Rush Coil, besides graphically, is that I believe Rush telprots away in the air, while Sonic's spring falls to the ground and can potentially hit someone.

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#29213: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:25:36 AM

[up]Sonic's also appears to bounce higher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29214: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:27:09 AM

Hold up, aren't all the playable characters in Star Fox mercenaries? Team Star Fox definitely is; they're saving Lylat for pay.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:27:19 AM by Enlong

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#29215: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:28:13 AM

[up]According to The Pirates Who Don't Do Anything, Star Wolf behave more like actual mercenaries than Star Fox actually does.

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#29216: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:28:34 AM

Yeah, they were gonna' be military, but they quit because they weren't allowed to investigate James' death.
So they act like military, but will do their own thing if they have to.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:29:13 AM by zeromaeus

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#29217: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:33:41 AM

On my stand, I don't mind if a character has a similar move to another character (if it isn't a clone thing). Like, if I were to play fighting games, I wouldn't complain every time I see something similar to a Shoryuken.

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#29218: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:35:25 AM

Hm... that page is wrong. The Aparoid business did see the Star Fox team receive a monetary award. It's in the credits, at the section for the Aparoid Home World.

The only real difference is that Star Wolf has fewer standards as to who they'll take a contract from. Working for Andross didn't earn them any favors with the Cornerian fleet once that conflict ended.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:36:57 AM by Enlong

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#29219: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:35:44 AM

[up][up]I don't mind if it's not a clone move either.

Except if it's some really piddly difference like Falco's blaster dealing knockback or him kicking out his reflector. Really not even helping his favour.

[up]As mercanaries tend to do.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:37:04 AM by MagcargoMan

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#29220: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:38:43 AM

I'm not sure how else o put it. Star Fox fight stuff for money, so does Star Wolf. They're both mercenaries. The only differences being who they actually end up selling their services to, as well as personal grudges held by their respective leaders.

Heck, Star Wolf is the team who worked on the Aparoid thing for free.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:39:58 AM by Enlong

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#29221: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:40:08 AM

[up]Well Star Fox is shadier so it makes sense if they use more guns. tongue

It also helps that Assault was the first game Wolf was playable in.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:40:40 AM by MagcargoMan

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#29222: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:45:51 AM

Only Falco used more Guns, via the SSE, where he shot with 2. I'm sure he has one for gameplay reasons. If he could shoot 2, he'd be wayyyy too powerful. Then he'd essentially have the same firing rate as Fox, who has the distinction of lack of knockback.(that's also his key difference, his knockback output for many of his moves are far weaker than Falco's. He's also faster and has a better recovery)

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#29223: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:50:21 AM

Only Falco used more Guns, via the SSE, where he shot with 2.

What happens in Subspace (or Smash for that matter) has no canon bearing on a character unless the owner's of that character implement or ascend it (ie. FALCON PAAWWNCCCHHH).

Only Falco used more Guns, via the SSE, where he shot with 2. I'm sure he has one for gameplay reasons. If he could shoot 2, he'd be wayyyy too powerful. Then he'd essentially have the same firing rate as Fox, who has the distinction of lack of knockback.(that's also his key difference, his knockback output for many of his moves are far weaker than Falco's. He's also faster and has a better recovery)

Actually, what the heck does this have to do with me simply saying Wolf makes the most sense of all the playable Star Fox characters to be gun-orientated?

edited 13th Dec '13 5:53:05 AM by MagcargoMan

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#29224: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:52:55 AM

Wasn't my point. -_-

If anybody should have more guns, I think it should be Falco. Wolf's is beyond distinct enough that the only thing it has in common is the name alone. Everything about it is unique.

Falco has a better reason. And Giga Bowser was Adventure Mode only. Look what happened to him. So... that's not as true as you think it is.

I do not think Wolf fits the more gun part. I think Falco fits it far better since he's done it in Smash before. That's what it has to do with it.

edited 13th Dec '13 5:53:37 AM by Irene

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#29225: Dec 13th 2013 at 5:54:18 AM

And Giga Bowser was Adventure Mode only. Look what happened to him.

Yeah, he appeared in the next Smash...

edited 13th Dec '13 5:54:24 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

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