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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29076: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:34:20 AM

[up][up]I personally hope he gets cut for a cuter Pokemon.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#29077: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:34:31 AM

Well, it shows up only on a version of Wily's Castle that lacks the usual platforms, at least.

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#29078: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:35:36 AM

Could just as easily be part of a sequence in the stage wherein which the platforms disappear and he shows up.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#29079: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:36:52 AM

It seems like a bit too much of a thing to be a hazard, too- It's huge, and its signature attack style isn't really conducive to continuing a fight with it around.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29080: Dec 12th 2013 at 5:37:44 AM

Maybe it's a playable character?

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#29081: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:08:55 AM

I doubt that.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29082: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:30:50 AM

[up][up]That was a joke, right?

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Get Out!

edited 12th Dec '13 6:31:53 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#29083: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:32:27 AM

Yellow Devil confirmed.

Dr. Wily too. His Final Smash involves the UFO sound.

Hah, a Super Smash Bros where Megaman can send Dr. Wily falling to his death or ram him into a wall of spikes, only for the doctor to revive ten seconds later.

edited 12th Dec '13 6:34:32 AM by FOFD

CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29084: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:33:50 AM

Why would I be joking? This is dead serious stuff here.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#29085: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:35:40 AM

Well, there might be an asymmetrical multiplayer mode where someone commands a boss and one or two other players fight them, but I highly doubt Yellow Devil is playable in the usual sense.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29086: Dec 12th 2013 at 6:59:30 AM

This isn't Game FA Qs — we do have a thing against fanboyish arguments and pointlessly confrontational attitudes here.

Instead people dogpile on one person all the time and any justified criticism is shot down by the majority.

Lucario's held onto relevance- It's now one of the poster-boys for Mega Evolution

And he was still important anyway for being the mascot of a generation anyway.

Importance/Legacy > Newest

edited 12th Dec '13 7:01:12 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29087: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:02:50 AM

If the Yellow Devil was a playable character, it'd have gotten a trailer by now.

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29088: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:03:32 AM

It's not our fault you're wrong, honestly. Sakurai's word proves it, and he's the Creator.

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#29089: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:07:39 AM

I vaguely follow pokemon. I have my entire life, even if circumstances have always conspired against me actually playing the games.

I'd never heard of Lucario until smash. Really, he wasn't even promoted that much. Plus, he's a fairly boring looking pokemon, he's had his minute of fame. And dude, it's not so much that we're all jumping on you as you interpret someone trying to disprove one of your points as a personal attack on you. Not to mention that you're pretty much the only one holding your opinion. An important part of being a mascot is being heavily promoted, being the face of the promotion. Lucario really wasn't on much of the promotional material, if I remember right. He's not Pikachu, he's not any of the legendaries... I think you're really overselling this. Just because we think your opinions are wrong doesn't mean we think you're a jerk, we're not attacking you.

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29090: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:07:40 AM

[up][up]Excuse me? Wrong about what? I never specificied a specific instance. Link me to what I said that goes against what Sakurai said.

I just said in general this is what tends to happen to people. Not just me, but other people too. By "one person" I didn't mean me; I meant just any instance where one person says something and everybody else just teams up on them.

Other sites have said this has happened to other people too as well.

I'd never heard of Lucario until smash.

And that means we should judge his relevance on that?

Really, he wasn't even promoted that much.

Yeah, they didn't make a movie about him or anything.

And dude, it's not so much that we're all jumping on you

How can you say that? We never interact. You haven't been around all the times it's happened.

Not to mention that you're pretty much the only one holding your opinion.

Wrong.

Plus, he's a fairly boring looking pokemon

That's your opinion.

Lucario really wasn't on much of the promotional material, if I remember right.

One of the first Gen IV pokemon revealed. Got it's own movie. Had references to him before his gen came out like in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

I think you're really overselling this.

I think you're really underselling his significance.

Just because we think your opinions are wrong doesn't mean we think you're a jerk, we're not attacking you.

I wasn't even referring to Lucario when I was saying that.

edited 12th Dec '13 7:36:00 AM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#29091: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:33:56 AM

Can we just drop the subject? And no, I am talking directly to you, Magcargo. I don't want to take part on these discussions, but they get so annoying when two or more people tennis these types of stuff.

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#29092: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:35:33 AM

[up] I think the issue with this thread is that we do drop this stuff and then someone apparently needs to respond to it when it was dropped just because they didn't respond when it was still going.

Anyone who assigns themselves loads of character tropes is someone to be worried about.
CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29093: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:36:13 AM

@Mag: Oh I see, sorry.

I think Ganondorf should have his Wind Waker appearance. It looks much better.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29094: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:37:06 AM

[up][up]Wow. Insults that aren't even subtle. Nice.

[up]It's okay.

I'd rather that Link, Zelda and Ganondorf all have the same style. Feels a bit weird if one of the main trio doesn't match stylistically with the other two.

For similar (less mascot-y and more ensemble darkhorse-y reasons) I'd be fine with Blaziken being playable. I'd still prefer bringing Lucario and/or Mewtwo back, though.

Why can't we have all three?

edited 12th Dec '13 7:42:54 AM by MagcargoMan

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CassidyTheDevil Since: Jan, 2013
#29095: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:45:35 AM

I mean, he'd still have the same realistic style like Link, I just mean his appearance should be based off his Wind Waker appearance. So he'd be bigger and wear those robes.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#29097: Dec 12th 2013 at 7:52:09 AM

I personally think newer characters can work well, if they have the right moves and such. A character's age shouldn't be that much of a factor to push or condemn them. There's more important aspects to consider.

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#29099: Dec 12th 2013 at 8:10:42 AM

That does depend on the series in question as well.

Like, if the IP itself is new, like Xenoblade, or if it's a series where it's known that new characters stick around, like Pokemon, it's easier to us new guys without worrying about future relevance.

I'll definitely give that one-shot characters, like Ghirahim, Yuga, and Skull Kid, haveore barriers than recurring characters, or characters of a shorter series.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#29100: Dec 12th 2013 at 8:13:29 AM

I think it also depends on how consistent the cast is. A very new Zelda character is a less good idea than a newer FE character, for example. Zelda has a fair few recurring characters- And yeah, I know reincarnation and such- Whereas Fire Emblem has a new cast every three games, at least.

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