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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28876: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:19:59 AM

Apparently, according to a German general manager, Smash may be released earlier than we thought.

Earlier than you thought, maybe. I've been fairly sure they were going to release it next summer, personally.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28877: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:21:30 AM

I'm leaning towards the source being false or misinformed. That goes for virtually any backroom announcement, especially from NoE.

[up]I'm honestly leaning towards a late Q3 or Q4 release. This is the big game on the block, after all.

edited 10th Dec '13 11:22:35 AM by Pulse

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28878: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:27:45 AM

Which is why it should be coming out earlier in the year, not competing with everything else during the Christmas rush. The Wii U is struggling, and launching in June or July will mean there are relatively few other games around that could draw away sales. As opposed to the abundance of games that traditionally comes in October and November.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28879: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:32:42 AM

At the same time, it's Smash Bros- They're not gonna rush it too much. Brawl had to be delayed a bit and it was still rushed a little. I mean, yeah, a summer release would be cool, but only if it's a finished product.

edited 10th Dec '13 11:34:14 AM by Pulse

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28880: Dec 10th 2013 at 11:39:00 AM

There's no reason for it not to be done by next summer. That will be slightly more than two years after Kid Icarus: Uprising, and the Namco team is extremely experienced with fighters. Sure, it could be delayed, but an ideal schedule has it coming out late Q2.

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28881: Dec 10th 2013 at 12:12:45 PM

I still can't believe that Project M and I had the same (obscure) idea for a Pikachu alt.

Anyways, if those rumors are true then I am super-hype! :D I really can't wait to get the game.

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#28882: Dec 10th 2013 at 12:50:21 PM

[up] It helps that Pichu is amazing against Giga Bowser and requires a lot more work to win with than Pikachu. Plus, it does have some more powerful attacks. I might just go for Project M if they give him the right buffs. Pikachu was very boring for me to play as in Melee.

As for Super Smash Flash. I have played it(and the demo of the 2). The mechanics need serious fixing, but I find the gameplay interesting. I'm not entirely bothered by the character list, being blatantly a fangame, but I don't like having too many Sonic characters while lacking in other series.(same with any others) My biggest complaint about the first one is really more of a nitpick, but calling X Mega Man was kind of annoying. Other than that, I had some fun with it.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28883: Dec 10th 2013 at 1:07:55 PM

[up]I meant for the release date of 4, my bad.

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#28884: Dec 10th 2013 at 1:13:03 PM

I was replying to only your first sentence. XD

Anyway, I don't mind it coming out sooner, just as long as it has as much content as possible. That's the one thing I liked about Brawl being pushed back. We had tons of content to make up for it.

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#28885: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:26:05 PM

I'm not seeing how it possibly being released in the spring means cut content. We don't know how long they've been working on it so it is possible they could fit everything in by then.

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#28886: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:30:27 PM

It would be two years solid since Uprising went gold, which is quite reasonable if the game doesn't suffer Brawl's feature creep.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28887: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:33:57 PM

[up][up] We know almost exactly how long they've been working on it. Sakurai said no work would start until Uprising was out the door. So they started working on Smash Bros at the very end of March 2012 at the earliest.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#28888: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:37:27 PM

Brawl took quite a long time to develop, so I'm worried if this game takes less time since it might mean fewer features.

Honestly, the sheer quantity of features the games tend to have is part of why Smash Bros. is fun to me, not just the battling or crossover aspect. I'm sorta worried that with two versions they'll split the total amount of non-vs.-mode content between the two versions, resulting in neither one feeling complete. Of course, if both versions had more content than Brawl (Or at least if the Wii U version does, 3DS version can't hold as much content as Brawl I'd suspect), that'd be awesome.

edited 10th Dec '13 6:38:15 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#28889: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:51:22 PM

They have a whole extra team helping them work on the game in the form of Namco-Bandai, though, so it only makes sense that it might not take as long.

Anyway, in terms of fan works, Super Smash Land is pretty awesome. I mean, I've personally never been able to get it to work for me, since I've never been able to configure Joy2Key in a way that works correctly, but its soundtrack kicks ass.


Also, a side note, we do have a Project M thread here, so maybe try just taking those tangents there so this thread doesn't get derailed with bitching/defending.

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#28890: Dec 10th 2013 at 6:59:12 PM

[up]x3

So we don't know when they started. Just that it had to be either late 2011 or early last year.

edited 10th Dec '13 7:23:35 PM by Chariot

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28891: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:09:30 PM

Again, no. Sakurai said it wouldn't start until after Uprising was released. He was still working for the game (interviews, etc.) until it was on shelves.

edited 10th Dec '13 7:10:01 PM by BadWolf21

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#28892: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:24:33 PM

So early last year then. How long did it take them to make Brawl?

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28893: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:25:45 PM

Nobody here seems to be talking bad about Brawl in the Family (if we're not just talking video games). Frankly, I'd say it's pretty dang example of a great fan project, and the guy who makes it manages to keep from acting like a jerk, to boot.

Man, I love Brawl In The Family. One time I went over to a good friend's place and he told me about it and I read the first 100 or so pages in one day. It's very clever and witty.

Plus some of the strips are hilarious in a WTH way.

edited 10th Dec '13 7:26:20 PM by MagcargoMan

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#28894: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:26:14 PM

They have a whole extra team helping them work on the game in the form of Namco-Bandai, though, so it only makes sense that it might not take as long.

As a note, it seems like Namco Bandai is the entirety of the team working on the game, other than Sakurai. At least, as far as I can tell. But anyway, while this is true, they're also working on two separate versions, so the team would need to be significantly larger than Brawl's (which had about 100 people working on it fulltime according to Sakurai). Hopefully it is.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28895: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:26:55 PM

There's no comparison, For is being made by a veteran fighting-game team. Brawl was not. It was also delayed a few times. It's apples and oranges.

Generally speaking, game development seems to average two years.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28896: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:33:28 PM

That's why I prefer the idea of the fighters being the actual game characters rather than trophies or dolls; it makes no sense but is awesome.

I too wish we played as the real characters and not trophies of them.

The game's non-canon anyway, so it's not like it'd screw up continuity or anything.

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#28897: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:35:02 PM

[up]x2

Well in that case wouldn't spring be the earliest For WiiU/For 3DS could be released?

edited 10th Dec '13 7:35:35 PM by Chariot

beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#28898: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:39:00 PM

Does it really make a difference if you're playing as the real characters or trophies (outside of Subspace Emissary, anyway)...? It doesn't seem like it would really make a difference in regular battles.

Plus, in the more recent games, there's about as much evidence for them being the real characters (namely Snake and Villager's reveal videos, Snake's codec calls, and Ness and Lucas's PK Starstorm trophies) for them being the real characters as there is for them being trophies (again, outside of Subspace Emissary).

edited 10th Dec '13 7:39:27 PM by beorc

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#28899: Dec 10th 2013 at 7:43:30 PM

Yeah, it's not a big deal outside of story mode.

In regular battles you can just say "It's the real characters. There's nothing telling me they're trophies, so I am in control of this situation."

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28900: Dec 10th 2013 at 8:19:52 PM

Apparently, according to a German general manager, Smash may be released earlier than we thought.

I really hope that's fake. If Smash 4 comes out anytime before Q4 it seems like it's being rushed.

and the fact that they removed the "Failure" sound effect when using not using the Gamecube controller.

And the fact that they added it in the first place.

Which is why it should be coming out earlier in the year, not competing with everything else during the Christmas rush. The Wii U is struggling, and launching in June or July will mean there are relatively few other games around that could draw away sales. As opposed to the abundance of games that traditionally comes in October and November.

No, they should take their time with Smash. They don't need to rush it, especially considering they ditched the story mode cutscenes and limited the roster to what the 3DS can handle.

And do you really think Smash is gonna struggle to sell around the Christmas Rush? Smash 4 will sell like hotcakes if it's released at any time of year.

Sure, it could be delayed, but an ideal schedule has it coming out late Q2.

That's not ideal at all. That sounds really rushed.

edited 10th Dec '13 8:28:05 PM by MagcargoMan

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