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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#28551: Dec 6th 2013 at 5:46:50 PM

Define "someone". Someone in this thread? Someone in an article? Someone in an interview? Sakurai?

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#28552: Dec 6th 2013 at 5:47:45 PM

This thread, while discussing Villager jumping.

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#28553: Dec 6th 2013 at 5:49:20 PM

That was a very old interview. Snake has not been mentioned in any interview to my knowledge.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#28554: Dec 6th 2013 at 5:53:27 PM

I mean people asked if he would jump, since he didn't jump in his own game. That's why I wondered if anyone brought up Solid Snake.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28555: Dec 6th 2013 at 5:56:10 PM

It's funny because he's clearly shown double-jumping in the Direct.

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Zarek Rollin' rollin' rollin' from Jakku Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#28556: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:02:00 PM

Oh, I thought you were referring to Snake having a multi-stage attack, like (maybe) the Villager's tree attack.

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#28557: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:25:11 PM

@Irene: Ah, so he does? Thanks. Also, Sakurai said Mega Man has a "variable weapons system". He did seem to have a lot of moves. Was that more than normal, or not?

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#28558: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:31:02 PM

A few of the Boss Move attacks are his regular A moves. But besides that, we don't know what everything else is. I got no idea which command does Metal Blade.

But nobody else besides the developers do anyway. [lol]

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#28559: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:31:14 PM

It's perfectly normal to have 8 by the time he reaches Dr. Wily's fortress. XP

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Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#28560: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:34:56 PM

The Variable Weapons System is the name of the software/hardware that allows Mega Man to use the abilities of his enemies after defeating them, though he does use more than normal (around 8-10 in a normal Mega Man game).

I would gush about the fact they know the name of the system, but I've spent a lot of gushing about Mega Man being in anyway.

edited 6th Dec '13 6:35:47 PM by Etheru

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28561: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:38:20 PM

Not only that, but the weapons he uses are more or less identical to how they function in the games they're from, excepting his up smash and Down Smash, which are more like how the Robot Masters used the weapons instead of Mega Man himself.

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#28562: Dec 6th 2013 at 6:50:31 PM

Just as well, too. The Spark Shock is surprisingly useless as a weapon in MM 3.

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28563: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:04:38 PM

There's also how he has to vent excess heat when using both Busters, and the Flame Sword is used exactly like how it is in the air in Mega Man 8, and *squeeeeeeeeeee~*

Mega Man may be just as nerd-tastic of a character as Mr. Game & Watch. Okay, maybe a little less (or more?).

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MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28564: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:17:40 PM

Sakurai himself has openly acknowledged the American fanbase's hate for him as a reason why he won't be a playable character.

What if being playable in Smash will increase his popularity? Like they'd have to make up some original moves for him because all he can do is fly with a balloon and drop bombs, right? If they pull a Captain Falcon and give him crazy OG moves and make him wacky like Waluigi he might be Rescued from the Scrappy Heap in the West.

edited 6th Dec '13 7:20:19 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28565: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:20:38 PM

I'd just make Tingle the resident Dan Hibiki.[lol]

Anyways, if another Zelda character is added, I'd want it to be Tingle.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#28566: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:21:45 PM

Both Spark Shot and Top Spin are pretty much useless except for very specific circumstances.

Spark Shot is great against certain bosses, but is like Ice Slasher without the ability to change weapons.

Top Spin is capable of doing great damage to most enemies and is required to defeat the final boss, but uses a random amount of weapons energy and requires you to get up close to an enemy and get hit if you don't kill it out right.

On another note, Megaman's Top Spin in Smash works alot like how Top man uses it.

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#28567: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:24:47 PM

If we got another Zelda character, I'd want Vaati.

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#28568: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:24:58 PM

[up][up][up]I feel joke characters are a waste of space in non-Original Generation fighting games, because a not-joke character could have been in instead. Not to mention if he's a complete joke that won't do any favours for popularity overseas.

If he was a Lethal Joke Character, that'd be fine though.

Because they had a concept for a shuriken-throwing minigame and they didn't have any other franchises that fit it?

They could have retooled it as a frisbee-throwing minigame based on Wii Sports Resort?

edited 6th Dec '13 7:27:39 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28569: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:25:58 PM

I've heard/seen Top Spin is great if used sparingly. Apparently the trick is 1)not holding the button down (that depletes ammo fast) and 2)knowing what foes it'll one-shot.

And I never really thought about it being how Top Man used it. Good eye. ^_^

[up]Maybe make him seemingly underpowered with an awesome trick that makes him good? Not a one-move-that-instantly-K Os-people thing like Jigglypuff, but something else. Difficult, but Awesome basically.

edited 6th Dec '13 7:27:47 PM by NesClassic

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#28570: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:27:59 PM

If he was a Lethal Joke Character, that'd be fine though.

In other words, Dan Hibiki. Or Jigglypuff.

edited 6th Dec '13 7:28:57 PM by doctrainAUM

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#28571: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:28:17 PM

[up][up]That sounds much better.

[up]I thought Dan was just a Joke Character, not a lethal one.

Basically, I'd like him to be like Mr Game & Watch or Wii Fit Trainer. Joke characters who can actually be effective.

The axe swing is the only one of Villager's moves we've seen that seems like a logical forward smash

Then what do you suppose the Boxing Glove attack is?

edited 6th Dec '13 7:31:25 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#28572: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:33:43 PM

[up]A neutral jab combo, maybe?

I don't consider those two to be LethalJokeCharacters so much as they are FightingClowns. For how hilarious their attacks are, they hit strong enough to stay out of "joke" territory.

Contrast Jigglypuff who has weak attacks and horrible lag, but can effectively juggle people off-screen if used right.

edited 6th Dec '13 7:34:10 PM by NesClassic

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zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#28573: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:35:56 PM

Dan started out as pretty useless, but has become increasingly viable over time. He's a legitimate threat now. His main ultra even has priority over Akuma's.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#28574: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:39:47 PM

For Fighting Clown, I hate how often the picture's change. It's like people just decide that their one is better and deserves the spot more. Even though all the pics convey the same amount of information.

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#28575: Dec 6th 2013 at 7:44:35 PM

I got no idea which command does Metal Blade.

It's most likely his B move.

In fact, we know most what most of his moves are:

  • Specials: Up B: Rush Coil
  • Standards: A: Mega Buster - Dash Attack: Top Spin - Up A: Mega Upper - Down A: Slide Attack
  • Aerials: Neutral Aerial: Aerial Mega Buster - Forward Aerial: Flame Sword - Backward Aerial: Slash Claw - Upward Aerial: Air Shooter - Downward Aerial: Hard Knuckle
  • Smash Attacks: Forward Smash: Charged Mega Buster - Up Smash: Spark Shock - Down Smash: Flame Blast
  • Grabs: Super Arm

Metal Blade is most likely Standard B, Crash Bomber Side B, and Leaf Shield Down B.

edited 6th Dec '13 7:46:17 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

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