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#28202: Dec 2nd 2013 at 2:13:22 PM

Huh. Probably means nothing for Cranky Kong's chances of inclusion, but it'd be funny.

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#28203: Dec 2nd 2013 at 2:18:05 PM

It definitely doesn't, though it is still interesting.

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#28204: Dec 2nd 2013 at 2:20:58 PM

It'd be cool to play as him, though.

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#28205: Dec 2nd 2013 at 2:30:05 PM

Yes. YES, I SAY. I was hoping Cranky was the third Kong! ...it hasn't been confirmed yet but I hope it's true.

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#28206: Dec 2nd 2013 at 6:50:21 PM

One thing I want to know is why Bowser Jr. is on like, every "realistic" roster. Personally I don't feel he's very likely... but everyone else loves adding him.

Have you been playing Mario lately? After his appearance in Sunshine, he was Bowser's second-in-command for New Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2, and being Co-Dragons with Kamek in New Super Mario Bros Wii and New Super Mario Bros U. And he's now been in the latest installments of Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi, being the bonus boss in the later, when traditionally the only main Mario characters that consistantly show up in the RPGs are Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser (heh, the Brawl 4).

You're not giving him enough credit.

I think Bowser Jr.'s about as likely as Ridley (which is to say, not very) - and they're both on every "realistic" roster.

Yeah, really not giving him credit here.

He has a large fanbase but also a large hatedom due to the perception that he replaced the Koopalings

A stupid perception considering how the Koopalings hadn't shown up in years and were never going to be in Sunshine anyway.

I wonder why Non-Specific Action Figure isn't on many lists.

Because he's an overrated one-shot joke.

People were serious about Kamek being a choice, which is why he's being defended. No more, no less.

Don't justify the bias.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:15:38 PM by MagcargoMan

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#28207: Dec 2nd 2013 at 6:53:31 PM

Let it go, Mag.

Just let it go.

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#28208: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:01:47 PM

What do you guys think of the idea of Dark Samus being playable?

No support. She looks pretty much the same as Samus, and there are more unique options for a humanoid Metroid character.

Same reason I'm against Dark Pit being playable.

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#28209: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:05:36 PM

Dark Samus seems better for an AT or a stage event, to me. Then again, its probably a little late for Phaaze to show up as a stage.

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#28210: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:06:57 PM

We only saw one version' Metroid stage, though, right? Did we see anything but the Pyrophere?

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#28211: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:08:10 PM

I think Ridley is more deserving of the spot although I wouldn't mind Dark Samus being in.

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#28212: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:11:33 PM

[up][up][up][up]I can rebut that by saying that if Dark Samus keeps it's posture different from Samus (likely being more twitchy and primal than being ready to fire at a moment's notice), they'd be discernible, and unlike Pit/Dark Pit they have different enough bodies that it's easy to tell them apart. Dark Samus is noticeably more organic and glowy than Samus, with whom it's easy to tell that the Power Suit is a mechanical device.

I can see why Mysterious Black Dude Sylux or Weavel would be more unique, though (Weavel especially, due to the Halfturret).

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#28213: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:11:52 PM

I don't know enough about Dark Samus to comment, but I'm totally in favor of Dark Pit being playable.

As an alternate costume of Pit, anyway. Like the male Wii Fit Trainer, he could have different voice clips. (At least, I'm assuming the male Wii Fit Trainer has different voice clips. It'd be a tad odd if he didn't.)

EDIT: Actually, I just realized, Dark Pit wouldn't be an alternate costume, technically. He'd just be a recolor with different voice clips.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:12:27 PM by Zarek

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#28214: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:14:29 PM

[up]Dark Pit would just be a palette swap. He looks the same. Alts are for costumes that actually look different and not just colour-wise.

Or not allow them online just like custom courses.

Not being able to use my Mii online would be infavourable.

I can see a mii which could be given the moveset of any other character kind of like a create a fighter thing

I really don't want it to turn out like that.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:17:36 PM by MagcargoMan

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#28215: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:16:14 PM

[up]Edit-ninja'd! Haha!

But yeah, Dark Pit could still have different voice acting so it sounds like Dark Pit and not Pit.

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#28216: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:20:29 PM

Something interesting.

And all this time I was thinking it'd be the return of Kiddy Kong.

[up]I don't think it really matters. It's not like there'd be a Vocal Dissonance issue. Dark Pit's voice still suits regular Pit's design.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:24:30 PM by MagcargoMan

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#28217: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:26:29 PM

Although Pit and Dark Pit are (as of Uprising) voiced by the same person, so I see no reason that we can't have alternate voice clips. At the very least, some for the taunts, Final Smash, and victory poses.

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#28218: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:27:06 PM

[up][up]Not...quuuiiiite. There is a distinct difference between Pit and Dark Pit's voices. Their voice actor (whose name I unfortunately forget at this time) specifically performed their voices differently to reflect their personalities. Pit's more excitable and upbeat, while Dark Pit is a little more subdued and...well...dark.

Ninja'd, ish?

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:28:06 PM by Zarek

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#28219: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:30:57 PM

[up]Look, he's gonna be spending mist of his dialogue making battle sounds. Does it really matter?

Especially since it was a palette for him in Brawl before they even made it into it's own character. Voice still worked there.

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#28220: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:32:53 PM

Well, yeah, it worked in Brawl because the character didn't exist yet. Like you said. There was no baseline. That was just a fallen angel-type color pallete for Pit because Dark Pit wasn't a thing.

And I'm not saying it's super necessary, dude, I'm just saying it'd be a cool detail.

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#28221: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:40:08 PM

[up]That's fine. I just don't see the need for palette swaps to have voice changes, is all.

Really hope the Villager gets a female alt for symmetry with the Wii Fit Trainer.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:43:18 PM by MagcargoMan

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#28222: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:42:36 PM

It's not needed (it worked back in Brawl, and Peach never needed Daisy's voice) but it'd still be a cool detail.

Although the battle grunts wouldn't need revoicing, since in the heat of a fight it's kind of hard to hear. Just the more extensive lines (i.e. "You can't defeat me!" to "Were you even trying?")

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#28223: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:53:09 PM

And if Pit has any lines calling out to Palutena, change that. As we all know, Dark Pit isn't exactly the praying type.

A stupid perception considering how the Koopalings hadn't shown up in years and were never going to be in Sunshine anyway.

We-ll, to the people who like(d) the Koopalings from playing Mario 3 or Mario World, it must have been a worrying trend. The charcers don't show up for a few games, and then a new character is introduced who appears to be filling the niche they had. I can understand people being worried about the Koopalings' future after that.

Now they've showed up again, though, so that worry has been dispelled.

Not sure I want Bowser Jr. in the game in any case, though. Not unless he uses the Magic Brush.

And in that case, ya might as well use Adeline.

edited 2nd Dec '13 7:53:38 PM by Enlong

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#28224: Dec 2nd 2013 at 7:59:24 PM

[up]Adeline is a one-shot character though.

No matter how much she appears in Brawl In The Family. tongue

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#28225: Dec 2nd 2013 at 8:00:52 PM

Hey, Adeline has a good chance.

Also, if you try to make Dark Pit do the codec: "What? I'm not asking them for help, I can do this by myself!"

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