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Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#28102: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:52:43 PM

I say Kamek would make a pretty good boss fight, at least. Someone the same size as your character rather than anything giant.

MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28103: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:54:44 PM

[up]The problem with having bosses that are the same size as the player is that it causes people to wonder why they weren't playable.

Also, for Pete's sake, you guys just won't let me dislike any character, will you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28104: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:56:50 PM

Not if your reasons are based of false presumptions.

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#28105: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:57:22 PM

[up][up]We already have people wondering why Ridley isn't playable, so not much of an issue there. tongue

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28106: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:57:31 PM

[up][up]It's funny because that's what Anom did about Rosalina but you all defended that when I pointed it out.

#TvTropesBias

[up]He's not the same size as the player in his boss fight though.

edited 1st Dec '13 9:58:22 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28107: Dec 1st 2013 at 9:59:28 PM

TV Tropes has a hashtag system now? Cool.

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edited 1st Dec '13 9:59:41 PM by eviipaladin

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28108: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:00:18 PM

[up]See you deliberately ignore the point as always. Thank you for proving that the bias is strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28109: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:00:50 PM

Glad to help.

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28111: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:05:44 PM

Rosalina, to me, and Palutena's like this as well, is a character who does have potential for number of moves, given her showing in her own game, but who I have a hard time thinking of how to bring down her moves to a playble level, as most of what she does is either really subtle, or on a grand scale.

Aside from the Spin, of course.

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#28112: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:07:31 PM

[up]I wasn't even referring to playability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28113: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:08:04 PM

[up][up]Understandable since they are gods and all. Not a lot of middle ground with those kinds.

[up][up][up]Please ratchet it back, sir.

edited 1st Dec '13 10:08:17 PM by eviipaladin

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28114: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:10:51 PM

Screw this, I'm hollering. Maybe next time you'll learn to acknowlegde my valid point instead of mocking me and getting away with it.

edited 1st Dec '13 10:10:58 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
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#28115: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:13:46 PM

We acknowledged your point and proved why it isn't actually valid.

You are entirely free to dislike them and nobody is arguing otherwise. Just don't expect us to agree your reasons, that's all. We find them illogical. And hey, that is okay too. People don't agree always.

It's not a big deal. You don't prefer them in Smash, some do, some don't. No big deal, again.

Shadow?
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28116: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:18:14 PM

We acknowledged your point and proved why it isn't actually valid.

No they didn't. You don't even get what point I'm referring to:

->Evi:

Not if your reasons are based of false presumptions.

->Me:

It's funny because that's what Anom did about Rosalina but you all defended that when I pointed it out.
#TvTropesBias

->Evi:

TV Tropes has a hashtag system now? Cool.
#Hashtag #YOLO #Swag #CashMoney

Deliberately ignoring the point.

edited 1st Dec '13 10:20:53 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
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#28117: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:21:29 PM

Mag, just drop it, this isn't worth starting a crusade over, whether you're right or they're right.

Kamek is really the only sensible choice for a second Yoshi-counted character, and besides, we've already got Mega Man, among others, as zoning specialists.
The only sensible choice for another Yoshi rep? Hah! Stork for Smash For.

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eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28118: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:22:00 PM

His proportions as an adult are more normal though.

-Magcargo Man

-Enlong

-Bad Wolf 21

Not a single point was addressed. In fact, negative points were addressed.

edited 1st Dec '13 10:22:31 PM by eviipaladin

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
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#28119: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:26:45 PM

[up]It's still not as out-of-proportioned as Baby Mario's. Now what's your excuse for not acknowledging now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM
Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#28120: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:26:46 PM

@Enlong(and now we're also Twitter): Kirby's range of abilities are virtually limitless as well, but that hasn't stopped them from giving him a decently coherent and reasonable moveset.

On that note, we already know that Palutena is apparently fairly comfortable using regular weapons, and KI:U has a plethora of those to choose from. And Rosalina could also potentially summon various Lumas for different effects (recovery, explosives, etc.) along with the generic magic that she generally uses. Neither of them have to actively advertise that they're goddesses in order to be capable.

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#28121: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:28:46 PM

Bah, we were always Twitter tongue

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#28122: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:30:58 PM

It's not the number of powers tha sort of gives them a diferent feel, for me. Rather the scale of their powers. Like, Rosalina is mosly seen using the entire Observatory as a ramming vehicle, and Palutena does towering pillars of light or focusing the sun into a blinding glare, and stuff like that. Yeah, some of those things could be scaled down, but it's sort of a differrent feel. I know this isn't coming across to well...

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eviipaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#28123: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:32:27 PM

The jury's still out. They'll return when proof—wait wait hold up.

What the hell was this argument about anyways? Because, looking back, its just MM saying he doesn't want the Babies in because he doesn't like them. I don't even need to argue about that since there isn't a single thing stopping them from being playable in that.

Well that's all cleaned up nicely. Yay.

As for Palutena, I can't exactly see her fighting using Uprising weapons. The brief fight in which she is involved doesn't really show off a ton of stuff to incorporate in a Smash character, so she'd likely have the have most of her moveset made from scratch, if anything.

Roslina? I got nothing. I'm like one of five Ninty fanboys who never really bothered much with Mario.

edited 1st Dec '13 10:34:03 PM by eviipaladin

"Evii is right though" -Saturn "I didn't know you were a bitch Evii." -Lior Val
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#28124: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:33:24 PM

Actually, I get exactly what you mean. Making them look as tough as they are is very difficult. Mewtwo is a good example of this in Melee. He's supposed to be immensely powerful, but he's a pushover in that game.

Albeit, I know he's not an exact example of that either. But yeah.

Speaking of, even if Rosalina isn't playable, I'd love to see Mario's Final Smash being the Observatory ram into the opponent with Rosalina riding it(and then she winks to the camera to acknowledge how awesome she obviously is tongue).

Shadow?
MagcargoMan Hooray! Bubble Party! Since: Oct, 2010
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#28125: Dec 1st 2013 at 10:34:03 PM

Because, looking back, its just MM saying he doesn't want the Babies in because he doesn't like them.

You mean like what others have done before but when they did it they were defended?

edited 1st Dec '13 10:34:16 PM by MagcargoMan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8yAjWvAqyM

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