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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26926: Nov 10th 2013 at 8:56:51 AM

I'm sorry, but can you really say that's the case here?

"Nobody likes it" is pretty damn blatant(and also a non-factual statement) to make. It also can't ever be backed up and not worth saying due to that alone.

Moving on from people making poor generalizations, I really hope they give the Blood Falcon costume shoulder spikes. He's already got the named on the back of his jacket, so there's no point in not showing off the rest of the entire design now. Not like he's any different from Captain Falcon in abilities at all, so who cares?

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#26927: Nov 10th 2013 at 8:57:26 AM

Generalizations can be useful in some circumstances (mostly if you're trying for emotional appeal, which I tend to dislike). I don't quite think that generalization=trolling, though. That in itself is an exaggeration.

I'm pretty sure there's a law somewhere that states "If something is seemingly universally disliked, at least one person likes it. The inverse is also true; if something is universally praised, at least one person hates it."

Sheik'd.

[up]Yeah, might as well. Adding those spikes shouldn't take up much space on the disc anyways.

edited 10th Nov '13 8:58:19 AM by NesClassic

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#26929: Nov 10th 2013 at 8:59:35 AM

I'm sick of this. I really am. I can't think of one topic that hasn't made this thread erupt at least once. I just want us to talk about the game, but this place is a goddamn mine field.

I have a message from another time...
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26930: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:00:06 AM

[up][up][up] The only difference is one is a clone. Even Dr. Mario has unique abilities from Mario, unlike Blood Falcon who the only difference is that... he's evil?

[up][up] I laughed.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:02:11 AM by Irene

Shadow?
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#26931: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:03:32 AM

Ugh, this is worse than the time we spent several pages arguing over the definition of likely.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#26932: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:03:40 AM

@Enkufa: I recommend vacations! I'm serving mandatory military service now and since other people start to make incredibly sexist and racist jokes when they get bored, anything that would normally frustrate me in Internet seems like fresh breath of air!

...If you are wondering how that is vacation, I meant that I'm having vacation from army right now up till 30 minutes when I have to go back and avoid going postal because I can't stand bored young guys making incredibly offensive jokes for so long tongue

@Irene: Bad joke was that if blood falcon color would get also spikes, he should get all special effects and evil sounding voice and stuff so that he would almost be completely alternate skin

NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#26934: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:04:53 AM

Generalizations are bad statements under all conditions. Because they're never actually true.

Ahem. :/

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26935: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:05:15 AM

@Spooky: Hence why I laughed.

[up] My statement holds true.

[up][up] The thing about Blood Falcon and Captain Falcon is there are no differences between them at all besides personality(irrelevant to a fighting game) and their looks. That's why the costume is 100% okay to do so. But if they were different at all, it's better to make them playable or not bother.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:08:08 AM by Irene

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#26936: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:09:38 AM

@Irene: Ah sorry, you previously had less arrows so I didn't realize it was aimed at me xP

Anyhoo, yeah, I'm rambling again, but I gotta say that army did brilliant to my loneliness problems tongue I'm now so annoyed of other people there so that I avoid everyone but my family on vacations and so enjoy quiet loneliness!

Army, the best solution to every young people problems :P

My attempt to steer conversation away from definitions isn't working, is it?

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#26937: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:10:23 AM

The fact that there's already a Blood Falcon palette, complete with Blood Hawk logo, helps significantly. Seriously, add three spikes on the shoulder pad and it's done.

I sure said that!
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26938: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:12:25 AM

Actually, he'd have to have the face change to be the exact version of Blood Falcon. But yeah, the spikes certainly help. They have no effect on his moveset, which is actually a good reason to avoid specific costumes. Like Mewtwo's Mega Evolutions. They aren't like his normal self, so the hitboxes would be screwed up. They only work as actual transformations.

[up][up] No biggie. And if you want to attempt to end a conversation type, never mention it. At all. When people do, people will just continue to reply because it's still being said. Never mentioning it works wonders for changing the topic. wink

edited 10th Nov '13 9:13:25 AM by Irene

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#26939: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:13:33 AM

[up][up][up][up]Agreed. It's an exception to that pet peeve I have with alternate costumes being different characters. Looking at YOU, Zero and X.

Speaking of alternate costumes, I have ideas for Yoshi and DK: Pirate Land Yoshi and Mystery Land Donkey Kong.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:13:46 AM by NesClassic

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#26940: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:14:37 AM

Irene: Except going by your own logic, it can't. Because it's a generalization.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26941: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:15:15 AM

I would love to see the Mario Party ones appearing. I mean, we already got Waluigi in Smash overall, so...

Has any Mario Party exclusive showed up as a Trophy or Sticker? I don't think any move specific to that series(or item) has shown up yet, though.

[up] Stop being an ass here. There is no point in making a generalization since it doesn't generally hold true and can't be proven. You know exactly what the problem with it is and are arguing just for the sake of being right. Nobody cares, just drop it already.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:16:31 AM by Irene

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NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#26942: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:16:54 AM

In Brawl's massive wave of ported models we got Big Top and MC Ballyhoo from Mario Party 8. Not too surprised there.

There were plenty of stickers, too. I know for a fact Pirate Land Yoshi was one of them.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:17:45 AM by NesClassic

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#26943: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:17:04 AM

Ballyhoo and Bigtop got a trophy in Brawl, but Mario Party 8 had just been released and Brawl had a problem with recycling models from other games instead of rendering new ones like Melee did.

I sure said that!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#26944: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:17:17 AM

Going back to discussing Smash 4, who wants to bet the next character reveal will be another veteran, albeit one that nobody saw coming, like R.O.B.

And since I don't know how likable R.O.B. is in Brawl, I'm just gonna say it. I like playing as R.O.B. and if he shows up in Smash 4, I will be pleased. smile

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26945: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:18:11 AM

Brawl also spent most of its time on the SSE development-wise, so that's not too surprising. Some parts weren't done as well or had less time. Makes sense, really.

And good. It's a notable series that should be repped.

[up] R.O.B. wouldn't be surprising since he's really important to Nintendo and Video Games as a whole. Dr. Mario would surprise people more since nobody expects him back anymore since he's just a clone with only one unique move that Mario cannot use(Mega Vitamins).

edited 10th Nov '13 9:19:21 AM by Irene

Shadow?
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#26946: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:18:41 AM

R.O.B. seems to have had a mostly-positive response, once the initial shock and cries of "he took *insert character here*'s spot!" had died down.

I sure said that!
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#26947: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:20:35 AM

[up][up]Indeed! Hmm... there's plenty of items from Mario Party we could use, too. I'm not how many of them could easily translate into Smash Bros. items, but they're there.

[up][up][up]I would love to see R.O.B. return, he's one of my favorites to play as! Well, when I'm not against someone too fast to hit, that is.

edited 10th Nov '13 9:21:30 AM by NesClassic

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26948: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:26:59 AM

I mean for movesets. If Waluigi became playable, he can use his Piranha Plant partner from Mario Party 3 for an attack, for instance. The Flashlight could be used to remove a status effect on someone else, particularly invisibility.(if it's Invisible Mode, temporarily, possibly for the same amount of time the Cloaking Device would normally do. As a bit of a reference to it, if you will)

But items work too. I can't think of any besides the Flashlight off the top of my head. Maybe the Magic Lamp for an attack akin to the Warp Star?

Shadow?
NesClassic Meh-meh!? from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: In another castle
Meh-meh!?
#26949: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:32:05 AM

The thought of a giant genie ramming through everything is too amusing to pass up.

I generally associate Waluigi with a Piranha Plant and tennis rackets, so that could work. An idea for how it works: As long as you're holding down B, Waluigi holds a potted Piranha Plant in front of himself. It will eat incoming projectiles, and if somebody walks close enough it'll bite them as well. It doesn't do much damage or knockback, but it's good for interrupting people in the middle of something.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26950: Nov 10th 2013 at 9:36:08 AM

Alternatively, it could breathe Fire for his basic B move. Although hitting a Tennis ball fits him too, since that's his debut game. The Assist Trophy even suggests this has some importance, being it's his only equipment shown.

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