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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26401: Oct 25th 2013 at 9:04:16 PM

Too is big Ridley?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#26402: Oct 25th 2013 at 9:13:29 PM

[up][up] Yes, it first appeared in [redacted].

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#26403: Oct 25th 2013 at 11:32:07 PM

If they really wanted to troll everyone, they'd just take Sonic out and replace him with Big. In order to promote their final Nintendo exclusive Sonic game, Big the Cat's Dating Simulator, of course. (A Nintendo rep told me at Comic Con, so it must be true tongue)

@Irene: My mistake, I didn't see that you commented on that. My bad. Also, if I recall correctly, Sonic The Fighters was an arcade exclusive.

They only came up with Wisps a few years ago. I don't see why they're relevant for Smash, especially considering they deliberately made Mega Man strictly classic Mega Man in appearance and moveset.
Not everything needs to be historically based. Luigi's Negative Zone was completely pulled out of thin air with no precedent ("being in Mario's shadow too long" aside) whatsoever.

And besides, I was suggesting the Wisps as items, not as a final smash. I don't know where anyone got that idea from.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26404: Oct 25th 2013 at 11:35:10 PM

Ah. Maybe that was R that wasn't.

Anyway, as I said, Wisps shouldn't be a Final Smash either. Movesets/Items/Assist Trophies, though...

Shadow?
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#26405: Oct 25th 2013 at 11:39:14 PM

Not so sure about as part of Sonic's moveset, since I'm not entirely sure how well that'd work, but I'd be cool with it being an assist trophy. Perhaps when the Wisps come up, it's a random one that does its power on its own? And since the priority of the Smash games is the first-party characters, it might just be one of a select few. Hopefully not Spike Wisp if they limit them, since I've never been a fan of that one. Rocket and Laser seem like they'd have the best chances, with Rocket charging up and then smashing into whoever is above them (I suppose like Olimar's ship in reverse?), and Laser ricocheting all around the screen or bouncing around the area it's in, hitting whatever is in its path.

Also, you know what would be cool? If on the Sonic stage[s] they rendered the item boxes as the TVs or whatever you call thems from the Sonic games that hold items tongue I doubt they'd go that extra mile, but hey, I can wish.

edited 25th Oct '13 11:40:40 PM by Odd1

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26406: Oct 25th 2013 at 11:47:58 PM

I don't think there are any pure stationary item boxes. But they had the random Red/Green/Blue Boxes where Caps would normally be on Peach's Castle(Melee), so they could sometimes show up as well. Especially if you have containers marked off.

And considering Sonic often uses the Wisps, I think he could reference them in someway. Like his Dash Attack could go into Crimson Eagle, a simple fiery dash similar to Kirby's Melee Dash.(but still his own animation) His Forward Smash A punch could actually be electrified, if only to make it not terribly generic. I could see the Bounce Attack as well, possibly with a watery noise or a temporary shield goes up based upon the Water Shield. It's hard to say.

Shadow?
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#26407: Oct 26th 2013 at 2:41:26 AM

I mean these.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26408: Oct 26th 2013 at 2:47:15 AM

Oh. And here I thought you meant it should be a stage element instead of re-theming it per the stage.

Not sure if the extra work is needed, but it's a neat concept too.

Shadow?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#26409: Oct 26th 2013 at 3:38:36 AM

They might make a nice stage element for a Lost Hex or Planet Wisp stage.

edited 26th Oct '13 3:39:14 AM by Enlong

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TechPowah Just a simple hero from the room down the hall Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Just a simple hero
#26410: Oct 26th 2013 at 5:59:30 AM

For the record, i'm pretty sure Sonic's moves also take inspiration from Virtua Fighter, so his moves don't even all come from his own series.

The New Age of Awesome is here! Not even the sky is the limit!
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#26411: Oct 26th 2013 at 7:13:54 AM

You're going to have to elaborate on that one.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#26412: Oct 26th 2013 at 8:17:16 AM

Also, if I recall correctly, Sonic The Fighters was an arcade exclusive.
Was. It's been ported to XBLA, last I looked (don't know about PSN).

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#26413: Oct 26th 2013 at 8:50:07 AM

Sonic the Fighters was first revived on the GC (in North America and Japan) and PS 2 (in Europe and Japan) game "Sonic Gems Collection." The point being to revive obscure titles with Sonic the Fighters, Sonic R, and Sonic CD being the three centerpiece games, with a bunch of Game Gear games following as unlockables.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26414: Oct 26th 2013 at 8:50:19 AM

I play it on my Wii, thanks to one of those Game Cube compilations. Sonic Gem Collection, was it? Something like that.

EDIT: Espio'd

edited 26th Oct '13 8:51:00 AM by doctrainAUM

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#26415: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:25:42 AM

Sonic the Fighters itself uses Virtua Fighter's actual engine. Even Honey the Cat comes from that series, just being turned into an animal form in Sonic The Fighters.

Shadow?
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#26417: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:32:41 AM

[up][up]

Huh. Didn't know that.

[up]

A forum where you need an account to view anything.

How I despise those.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#26418: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:33:05 AM

[up] Says i need to be logged in.

Wonder if this is how Smashboards dealt with their way-long DDOS...

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26419: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:38:54 AM

Where's that art from?

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013
#26421: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:42:57 AM

[up][up][up]

Wait, is Smashboards that exclusive forum where a bunch of 'official tier lists' are released from an elite group of Smashers, or was that Smash Blacklist or Backroom or something?

Man, I hate those guys and their exclusivity. Exclusive dicks.

edited 26th Oct '13 10:43:59 AM by FOFD

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#26422: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:44:42 AM

I don't hate them, but for a while when i was building my hypothetical roster (and said roster's moveset) I tried some of their search results for moves for characters that I am less familiar with, but the site was DDO Sed for some weeks.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26423: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:48:24 AM

The Wii U board is full of anti-Brawl fans who seem to also think poorly of casuals and Brawl fans. More than a few have called casuals entitled people who want everything handed to them, which is why game companies should focus on tournament players rather than millions of casuals who buy the games.

Not all of them are like that, though.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
Mad Scientist Wannabe
#26424: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:51:48 AM

[up]Those people are wrong and crazy. And they have no idea how economics works.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26425: Oct 26th 2013 at 10:55:06 AM

Go to an Eventhubs article of a Fighting game dev saying that the genre is too insular and needs to be more casual-friendly. Read the comments, and you will see plenty of people complaining that their favorite series will be dumbed down with no strategic depth. To many people, they are the same thing.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"

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