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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26101: Oct 21st 2013 at 7:04:52 AM

I wonder if it would be a good idea to make sure that every series had a starter character, except those with a single rep. Thus, G&W and maybe the Captain would still be unlockable, but Marth would be a starter. No reason, if just feels right.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#26102: Oct 21st 2013 at 7:37:43 AM

Am I the only one here whose concerned that they aren't saying anything about Meta Knight and King Dedede? Seriously, they were great to have in Brawl, why not throw hints about them already?

edited 21st Oct '13 7:49:06 AM by TargetmasterJoe

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26103: Oct 21st 2013 at 7:49:19 AM

There was an old black and white drawing from someone working on this game that featured Meta Knight. However, it is far from confirmation; at most , a hint.

Besides, not every character will make it. Would Meta Knight be an acceptable guy to remove? Maybe Pit already fills the same niche.

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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#26104: Oct 21st 2013 at 7:51:00 AM

[up][up][up][up] It seems that the past stages in Brawl were based upon which series were in the original Smash Bros.

As far as secret characters being starters or vice versa, I have to admit you have a point, but there's nothing that says that they can't be secret characters again either.

edited 21st Oct '13 7:51:34 AM by Folt

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26105: Oct 21st 2013 at 8:43:19 AM

If ROB's showing up again, he needs a Gyromite stage. It bothered me that he didn't have a stage to himself in Brawl. That Donkey Kong stage could have been altered for this purpose.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#26106: Oct 21st 2013 at 8:57:23 AM

I honestly couldn't give even the slightest shit about the starting roster. I'll take what I get. Just show me who's on the unlock list so I can properly motivate myself.

[up][up][up]I would say Meta Knight's an odd choice to cut, what with him being a popular character from one of Sakurai's franchises and whatnot, but then again, it did take 3 games for him to even show up. So eh.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#26107: Oct 21st 2013 at 9:02:43 AM

"What a great sound a Meteor Smash makes when it slams on an opponent! …Which, I'm sure, you can't tell by the picture."

At least it's another 3DS screenshot. I like the contrast between the army fighting in the background (assuming that's what's going on) and these colorful characters with absurd physics battling in the foreground.

And I don't know. I'd say the sound the Home Run Bat makes is better than whatever sounds the Meteor Smashes make now.

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#26108: Oct 21st 2013 at 9:17:55 AM

Looks like more of the Reset Bomb stage. Specifically, the bit with the war shortly before the bomb falls. Nice touch with the ruined building platform.

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#26109: Oct 21st 2013 at 10:31:35 AM

[up][up]What if they're the same sound? :P

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#26110: Oct 21st 2013 at 10:33:02 AM

As far as Luigi's taunt is concerned, they are.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#26111: Oct 21st 2013 at 10:41:04 AM

Does anyone want spikes to return, assuming that there's no confirmation yet? I'd actually prefer them gone, like in Brawl.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26112: Oct 21st 2013 at 11:17:42 AM

Spikes? You mean meteor smashes? Those were in Brawl...

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#26113: Oct 21st 2013 at 11:23:21 AM

If you're hit by a meteor smash, you can jump at just the right time to negate the momentum. Spikes don't let you do that.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26114: Oct 21st 2013 at 11:25:32 AM

Ah, wasn't aware that spikes were inescapable.

I think meteor smashes are fine in Brawl's manner. No need for spikes.

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Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#26115: Oct 21st 2013 at 1:11:36 PM

Yeah, a spike = "fall until you hit the ground or die". IIRC, Brawl only has one— Ganondorf's mid-air down special.

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#26116: Oct 21st 2013 at 1:22:03 PM

I'd say that they might consider cutting Meta Knight because of complaints about him being broken in Brawl... but since when have concerns about the metagame ever dictated who gets added or subtracted to the game?

Though if we are rating characters based on Sakurai's work on a game, I'll give a mention to Magnus from Kid Icarus: Uprising - sure, he'd be a heavyweight with a bit of a ponderous style, but he's already got several moves from his home game (including great deflection/cancelation style), could be tweaked for an interesting zoning style, and he was generally a neat character in his original game. Though if you wanted to go with a bit more gender balance, either Phosphora (who'd probably be even better for zoning, although more of a Fragile Speedster) or Amazon Pandora (workable as a Trap Master, though not my first choice) could also work. Eh, maybe an outside shot of Dark Lord Gaol (probably as a Stone Wall distance specialist, kind of as a counterpoint for Ganondorf) also could work, though she'd be the least likely of the suggest Uprising characters.

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#26117: Oct 21st 2013 at 1:25:30 PM

I strongly doubt any Kid Icarus Uprising characters will be included as playable characters, and indeed, I doubt we'll see any other KI characters besides, maybe, MAYBE Medusa.

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Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#26118: Oct 21st 2013 at 1:34:35 PM

I doubt Magnus has enough to differentiate himself from the rest of the cast to beplayable, but he and Gaol would make a good assist trophy. Medusa's status as the first game's main villain and decent presence in Uprising would probably give her precedence, along with Palutena.

edited 21st Oct '13 1:38:01 PM by Null

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#26119: Oct 21st 2013 at 1:58:17 PM

Isn't an attack that sends the opponent down like that supposed to, I dunno, kill? I've always thought the other way around in that spikes should stay and meteor smashes should go. In order for the kill to happen you have to hit the opponent anyway, and they can and should avoid that using DI. Putting momentum cancelling in there seems arbitrary.

If they really want to make it hard to do they could change the angle for a successful meteor smash to that of Melee's but have it act like a spike. That could be a good compromise.

edited 21st Oct '13 1:59:11 PM by Nap1100

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#26120: Oct 21st 2013 at 2:05:07 PM

[up][up][up][up]Pretty sure the only reason Sentinel made it into Marvel vs Capcom 3 was because of how infamous it was in the previous game.

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#26121: Oct 21st 2013 at 5:04:37 PM

Speaking of Kid Icarus Uprising, you know what would make an awesome Assist Trophy? An Orne.

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#26122: Oct 21st 2013 at 5:07:40 PM

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You know what else would make a good Assist Trophy? Anything but Hades' Heart.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26123: Oct 21st 2013 at 5:09:10 PM

How about an Arlon or Phosphora AT, as "directly offensive" AT's not unlike Gray Fox or Knuckle Joe?

edited 21st Oct '13 5:09:41 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#26124: Oct 21st 2013 at 5:54:56 PM

So, what's the stage in today's post supposed to be?

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#26125: Oct 21st 2013 at 5:57:25 PM

[up]Reset Bomb Forest, before the bomb goes off. (see "Chapter 12: Viridi, Goddess of Nature")

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