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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25651: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:41:23 AM

Who wants to bet that Meta Knight will be the worst character in the game? Probably by a sizable degree.

edited 10th Oct '13 8:41:55 AM by doctrainAUM

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25652: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:43:20 AM

His style from the Kirby games will be retained to some extent or another, so I doubt he'll be terrible by any means.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#25653: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:44:17 AM

Well if some other games have taught us, companies cannot nerf some one without making them suck.

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25654: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:44:32 AM

Never forget Kirby's transition from 64 to Melee!

Or maybe I'm harping on that too much. Who knows?

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25655: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:47:04 AM

[up][up][up] My thoughts exactly. Besides, why would they want to make Meta Knight the worst character in the game?

edited 10th Oct '13 8:47:56 AM by TargetmasterJoe

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25656: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:51:27 AM

They didn't set out to make Meta Knight the best in Brawl (despite what the Hatedom sometimes insists), but it just happened. It's common for devs to nerf broken characters, but end up making them useless.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25657: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:52:44 AM

The thing is, they're not going to make Meta Knight slow, and speed is a huge part of being good in Smash.

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Nap1100 Since: Mar, 2012
#25658: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:55:48 AM

All they really need to do for Meta Knight is get rid of the transcendent priority on all of his attacks, reduce the knockback on a couple ridiculous moves like dsmash, and nerf his recovery. If they did that he'd be good, but not too good.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#25659: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:56:13 AM

[up] [up]Amen to that, I say. By the way, did they already announce Final Smashes with the E3 2013 trailer or are they going announce them in an upcoming Direct?

edited 10th Oct '13 8:56:50 AM by TargetmasterJoe

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25660: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:57:32 AM

We've seen moves that are definitely Final Smashes.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25661: Oct 10th 2013 at 8:58:16 AM

They already showed WFT's FS, as well as confirming the Zero Laser.

@Nap: His knockback ability actually wasn't that great, so they should leave that alone. On that note, they should totally buff Sonic's KO potential, if only a bit.

edited 10th Oct '13 9:00:24 AM by doctrainAUM

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beorc Ridley and Ridley from hither and yon Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: I know
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#25662: Oct 10th 2013 at 9:01:21 AM

I wonder when we'll see some of the other characters' Final Smashes...

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25663: Oct 10th 2013 at 9:46:39 AM

@TPPR: Counterpoint: Wesker

edited 10th Oct '13 9:47:01 AM by Anomalocaris20

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#25664: Oct 10th 2013 at 11:07:05 AM

[up]Wesker wasn't nerfed though. A better counter-example would be Sentinel, who is still upper-tier but definitely got nerfed.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25665: Oct 10th 2013 at 11:34:15 AM

They explicitly tried to nerf him, they just accidentally made him even stronger.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25666: Oct 10th 2013 at 12:17:02 PM

Wait, how did they make him stronger?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25667: Oct 10th 2013 at 12:20:28 PM

Gave him a few minor nerfs, and a few compensatory buffs that were meant to keep him still useful but not as OP as before, except said buffs wound up being even more OP than the things they nerfed in the first place.

Anyway, how much do you want to bet we'll get some kind of reveal tomorrow?

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#25668: Oct 10th 2013 at 12:39:07 PM

I'm pretty certain we'll get some kind of reveal tomorrow. I have no idea who though. Jigglypuff? Mewtwo?

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doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25669: Oct 10th 2013 at 12:57:12 PM

I'm actually hoping for an altered Pokemon Trainer. With an official "no stamina or forced switching" announcement.

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nigelstack345 Let's dance, boys! from Subspace Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#25670: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:04:40 PM

Or maybe have the Pokemon Trainer fight alongside his Pokemon?

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25671: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:11:11 PM

Pokeverse humans are worthless in combat, though. Even the Black Belts and Battle Girls.

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EviIPaladin Some Guy Or Something from Middle-Of-Nowhere, NS Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#25672: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:13:46 PM

[up]Did you not see Chuck punch the fuck out of that boulder in G/S/C? Guy is hardcore.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#25673: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:20:34 PM

One of my "Really-unlikely-but-would-be-cool" characters would be a Pokémon Ranger, especially from the third game. Think of being able to summon Pokémon out of nowhere to attack opponents.

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#25674: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:21:17 PM

That also depends on the adaptation. The games, for instance, suggest Sabrina is as capable as some of her Pokemon, even if she never displays any of that.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25675: Oct 10th 2013 at 1:49:49 PM

I find it highly unlikely Smash will ever have a trainer on the battlefield directly, anyway.

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