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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25076: Sep 28th 2013 at 7:21:33 PM

@Zarek: Correct.

I'm not surprised he sees it as that in Brawl at least, as you needed to go through all of Classic Mode with all 39 of them separately to get each main Trophy.

It was odd that Zelda/Sheik needed go through All-Star twice while having the same Final Smash, but it wasn't like Pokemon Trainer where all of his Pokemon do the moves at the same time, so...

edited 28th Sep '13 7:22:05 PM by Irene

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#25077: Sep 28th 2013 at 7:24:23 PM

Technically, Zelda and Sheik have slightly different Light Arrows- Zelda's shots knocks away those hit at a roughly 45 degree angle, whereas Sheik's blasts those hit away horizontally, the only vertical movement being from gravity.

edited 28th Sep '13 7:24:58 PM by Pulse

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#25078: Sep 28th 2013 at 7:28:01 PM

You know who would be a CRAZY Square rep.?

Gato.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25079: Sep 28th 2013 at 7:33:08 PM

[up][up] I stand corrected then.

Still, it'd be easier to get both at once like with PT. Saw no need for any double/triple character(IC were a special exception since they lack transformations) to do it like that.

I do like that getting Giga Bowser's trophy is All-Star instead of some insane method. Like having to successfully become Giga during Classic to unlock the trophy.(okay, that's not beyond hard, but still a bad luck-based mission. At least Mew is easy to get)

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#25080: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:31:37 AM

If we're getting a Square rep, I'm willing to bet it'd be Cecil, FFIV being as popular/sequel-prone as it is.

That or Terra.

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#25081: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:35:07 AM

Super Smash Flash 2 had the right idea by using a nondescript Black Mage. In the unlikely event of a Square fighter, that seems most likely.

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#25082: Sep 29th 2013 at 10:35:40 AM

I still think Warrior of Light would be the best choice but if I'm being honest I'd prefer Terra or Cecil.

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#25083: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:12:57 AM

I think a Dragon Quest rep (Slime, maybe? I think he'd be GOOd) would be most appropriate since here in the West (at least the USA) the series is Nintendo-published (heck, one of Club Nintendo's rewards is a Dragon Quest screen saver).

But if it's a Final Fantasy character then anonymous Black Mage gets my vote.

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#25084: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:54:31 AM

Kostya: "Warrior of Light" is not a real character. It was created for Dissidia, which has never been on a Nintendo system, to represent the classes from FFI, since Dissidia has an actual story. It doesn't belong in Smash Bros.

Black Mage is probably the most likely of the FFI classes to appear, seeing as it's combat-focused, and has been playable in the Square-developed Mario sports games.

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#25085: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:56:16 AM

Considering their presence in Mario 3 on 3 Hoops and Mario Sports Mix, I'd expect a Square-Enix representative to be any of Team Final Fantasy characters (Ninja, Black Mage, Princess White Mage) or one of the mascot characters (Moogle, Cactuar, Slime), with moves that reference the sports titles, and maybe the Behemoth as a boss/stage hazard.

Otherwise, I can see the Warrior from the first game being a rep instead.

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#25086: Sep 29th 2013 at 11:59:09 AM

[up][up] That depiction of a Warrior of Light also appered in the 3DS game Theaterhythm Final Fantasy.

Also, they technically just repurposed an older design.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25087: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:04:12 PM

It's still not a real character.

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#25088: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:09:21 PM

The Warrior in Dissidia is just that, a representation of the Warrior class in FFI. It's similar to the idea of using a nondescript Black Mage.

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#25089: Sep 29th 2013 at 12:47:41 PM

I'd argue that it's closer to having Pokemon Trainer to represent Red.

I'm not even saying it would be the same one from Dissidia(even if he did appear on a Nintendo system). I was using the term to describe any generic character based on the class(es) from FF 1.

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#25090: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:32:41 PM

Mr. Game & Watch isn't any more real of a character. Or Giga Bowser(who is entirely a Smash original). The class is just as playable as a regular-made character.

Warrior of Light is plausible for Sakurai to do. He did it before with PT anyway, who's just a class with a well-known model.

You'd only have a point if Warrior of Light never had a Nintendo appearance, except when it did. So, no, he could happen. I'd prefer Black Mage for generic Final Fantasy classes, though.

edited 29th Sep '13 4:38:05 PM by Irene

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#25091: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:34:49 PM

...No, Dissidia did not have a Nintendo appearance.

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#25092: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:36:58 PM

The most likely Final Fantasy rep would be a moogle. They're the most iconic part of the series.

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#25093: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:40:32 PM

[up] Some would argue Chocobo instead. It's been quite a debate upon who is more notable.

For classes, there's just a ton. White Mage and Black Mage are pretty well known.

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#25094: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:47:05 PM

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A: the Warrior in Dissidia is meant to be a Warrior of Light from FFI. Which is why Dissidia ends with him approaching Cornelia Castle with Crystal in hand. The implication being that the end of Dissidia is the start of FFI.

B: this specific design of the Warrior appeared in Theaterhythm Final Fantasy, on the 3DS.

edited 29th Sep '13 4:47:46 PM by Enlong

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#25095: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:52:02 PM

[up]While that's technically a loophole with Theatrhythm, it... really isn't noteworthy enough to warrant Warrior of Light. 'sides, he isn't that iconic to the series on his own other than being a FFI composite.

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#25096: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:54:50 PM

Any of the FFI classes are reasonably iconic. Black Mage more so, I suppose, due to its visual design. The Dissidia Warrior is basically a costume change with more dialogue.

I'm rooting for a spellcasty character myself, but a Warrior could work. Put him in the traditional red armor, if you like. Dissidia had that too.

edited 29th Sep '13 4:55:40 PM by Enlong

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25097: Sep 29th 2013 at 4:56:05 PM

Enlong's point is that he actually is a possible character choice if Sakurai looks at Final Fantasy protagonists.

Not that he's easily a choice.

It's not a matter of likeliness, it's a matter of being possible, of which Warrior of Light ultimately is.

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#25098: Sep 29th 2013 at 6:23:57 PM

[up]Ah, alright. That makes more sense, I suppose.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25099: Sep 29th 2013 at 6:28:25 PM

Well, that was his entire point from what I can tell.

I do think they can do something more than him, but eh.

Anyway, yeah, Final Fantasy has a nice set of Class choices.

Then we get to Dragon Quest and... uhhhhhh... their iconic thing is the Monsters a lot more than the classes. Slime is honestly my personal choice if anyone. Not only does it have a ton of various costume choices due to its Palette Swaps, but as a person who made a moveset before, it has a ton of ways to attack. Magic, tentacles...

...I'll let you finish that idea on your own. wink

edited 29th Sep '13 8:48:15 PM by Irene

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#25100: Sep 29th 2013 at 8:43:04 PM

I'm still in favour of Gilgamesh. He's a distinct and fairly popular character who's made appearances in quite a few entries of the series, can directly represent multiple games through his moveset, and originated on a Nintendo home console.

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