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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25026: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:40:46 PM

They seemed to fail to realize that TL's overhead slash was his F-Tilt in Brawl.

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TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#25027: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:44:04 PM

I myself think that only way to really guess which characters might apprear is to look at what Nintendo games are coming out in the future. Aside of essentials like Samus and Fox, most characters we have seen so far either has a game come out or is going to come out.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25028: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:45:40 PM

Olimar, Luigi, and TL were revealed coinciding with Pikmin 3, Dream Team, and WW HD, while Peach was revealed around the 25th anniversary of Super Mario Bros., so it does seem to be a trend.

So I wonder if we'll get reveals for Pokemon XY and DKC TF?

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#25029: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:47:29 PM

[up] Nitpick: 28th anniversary.

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GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#25030: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:47:57 PM

I too second the notion of some good ol' Waluigi Time in For.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25031: Sep 27th 2013 at 11:56:18 PM

Every character's reveal so far(beyond the original characters including Mega Man and Wii Fit Trainer, although I may be wrong on those two) have been the same exact data as a game release.

MM and WFT were revealed during E3 hype, so I don't much count them towards this total.

The next game from a series already in Smash is Pokemon X/Y. Which Pokemon is hard to say. Every single one of the past characters(I'm noting exact slot numbers for the purpose of this statement) through Melee and Brawl(except Pichu) has something new in X/Y. Jigglypuff has a new type combo, Mewtwo/Lucario/Charizard have Mega Evolutions. However, Squirtle and Ivysaur don't.

IMO, the likeliness of who could be shown on the release date of X/Y is Mewtwo(two Megaforms) > Lucario(one Megaform) > Jigglypuff(a lowly retcon) > Pokemon Trainer(only 1/3 of his playable Pokemon have anything new in X/Y, meaning 2/3 of him isn't as relevant).

Of course, it could be a new Pokemon as well. Who knows?

Shadow?
TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#25032: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:08:00 AM

I think we might see Diddy Kong around the reveal of Tropical Freeze and maybe another Zelda character if they start showing stuff for a new Zelda game.

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tclittle Professional Forum Ninja from Somewhere Down in Texas Since: Apr, 2010
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#25033: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:12:12 AM

A Link Between Worlds is supposed to come out in November, I believe; so we may see something then.

edited 28th Sep '13 12:12:23 AM by tclittle

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#25034: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:16:08 AM

[up] Good point.

inb4 We get a third Link. But really, I am betting either on Ganondorf or Zelda.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#25035: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:32:30 AM

Maybe Ganondorf will actually evolve beyond clone status this time. tongue

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#25036: Sep 28th 2013 at 12:32:54 AM

If Zelda is indeed in A Link Between Worlds, she's the easy choice(I have not paid attention to the information, mind you, so I know nothing beyond a few items and that Link can travel along walls). I wonder who the villains are of that game, though...

Shadow?
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#25037: Sep 28th 2013 at 5:02:54 AM

Hard to say. Ganon would be the first thought, but Ganon got killed at the end of A Link To The Past. Not sealed, but reduced to dust with a silver arrow.

edited 28th Sep '13 5:03:14 AM by Enlong

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#25038: Sep 28th 2013 at 5:08:02 AM

Vaati? Probably not, but I can always hope.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25039: Sep 28th 2013 at 5:43:17 AM

I'm betting it goes like this:

  • Mid October: A Pokemon, no idea which.
  • Late October: Sonic
  • Late November: Ganondorf or Zelda. New Super Mario 3D World also comes out but we already have all the basic Mario characters. Maybe they could reveal Wario or something.
  • Early December: Diddy Kong
  • Late December: A newcomer? It will have been over six months and I feel like the end of the year would be a good time to announce the next newcomer to the game.

Next year(possibly, I'm basing this on games that are coming out then):

  • Zelda(or Ganon, whichever wasn't shown) when we get a bit more info on Zelda U.
  • Marth, see above but for the Shin Megami Tensei crossover.
  • Yoshi, Yarn Yoshi
  • Shulk or Xeno 4 protagonist when we get more info on that game.
  • A rush of newcomers around E3. Possibly with a few veterans that weren't revealed yet.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
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#25040: Sep 28th 2013 at 5:56:42 AM

Is Monolith Soft a second-party developer? I ask because, based on Sakurai's statements, I feel safe assuming that Sonic and Mega Man will be the only third-party characters in SSB 4.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25041: Sep 28th 2013 at 6:00:08 AM

Monolith Soft is owned by Nintendo completely. It's like Hal Laboratory with Kirby.

The other two Operation Rainfall games are co-owned from what I can tell. That makes them less likely but it still seems like they could get in if Sakurai wanted them.

I'm pretty sure Snake and Sonic will stay at the very least. I wouldn't hold my breath for anyone else though.

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#25042: Sep 28th 2013 at 10:01:09 AM

I'm hoping for Sonic at the very least, if only so we can get a Worlds Collide reunion between him and Mega Man.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25043: Sep 28th 2013 at 10:05:59 AM

Sonic is practically assured. Sega and Nintendo have an exlusivity deal for the next few games and he fits Sakurai's criteria that 3rd parties must be particularly notable. They pretty much have to include him or the backlash would be enormous.

edited 28th Sep '13 10:06:22 AM by Kostya

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25044: Sep 28th 2013 at 10:37:54 AM

Kostya: Just like to point out that Yoshi's New Island is more likely to come out first.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25045: Sep 28th 2013 at 10:59:26 AM

That's true. Still I expect Yoshi at some point next year.

It's kind of weird that Ness wasn't revealed when Earthbound came out on the Wii U eshop. In hindsight that's a rather odd omission.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25046: Sep 28th 2013 at 11:06:40 AM

I'd like for retention of both Sonic and Snake (Especially the latter), and alongside Mega Man have precisely 3 3rd party characters.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25047: Sep 28th 2013 at 11:09:12 AM

Three would be a good number. There are probably other people they could include but I doubt they will.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25048: Sep 28th 2013 at 11:11:00 AM

My optimal amount of third-party characters is four. One from each of the classic Japanese third parties: Sega, Konami, Capcom, and Square.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25049: Sep 28th 2013 at 11:14:05 AM

Square would also be the fourth third party I'd include but I'm unsure of who they could have. The obvious choice would be someone from Final Fantasy or Draqon Quest but there are tons of other cool franchises they could pick from if they wanted to. There's also the issue of FF and DQ having tons of characters that could potentially be considered important enough to warrant inclusion.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#25050: Sep 28th 2013 at 11:16:34 AM

Square, huh?

You could cheat and use Geno, to avoid having to worry about the character fitting in with Smash.

A Final Fantasy character could be chosen, but there are so many that to choose just one would mke a lot of people disappointed. As much as I love them, maybe best to stick with Dissidia and Theaterhythm.

Maybe a hero from the Mana series could work, though Square hasn't touched that for a while.

And I will here make mention of Dragon Quest, and request that we not discuss specifics as to who would be from there, as it is one of Those Topics (TM)

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