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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24976: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:11:27 AM

Sonic could and should be a shoo-in for returning, and if they can't get Snake back for some reason, they could get the Nintendo-Friendly Simon Belmont.

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edited 26th Sep '13 8:12:04 AM by Rinsankajugin

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24977: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:13:15 AM

Thing is, I'm pretty sure it'd be exactly as difficult to get Snake as to get Simon, since both are owned (primarily) by Konami, and since Snake has appeared before, he's much more likely.

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#24978: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:13:23 AM

Kinda surprise they brought Toon Link back.

That makes three Links in the 3DS version.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#24979: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:19:25 AM

There's no reason to keep Snake. Kojima got his favor, and he should be rotated out in favor of the new 3rd party characters.

Here's hoping Link has also been buffed now that Toon Link is back. While Melee favored the mid-weight speedy characters above all, Brawl favored the lightweight fast characters (so still no Kirby sad ) to make them annoying as fuck, and Toon Link was at the head of that pack.

edited 26th Sep '13 8:19:42 AM by Ogodei

Justin_Brett Since: Jun, 2010
#24980: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:19:57 AM

Won't Wind Waker HD be used in shops by the time this comes out? I can understand doing this to promote a wholly new game, but not so much with this.

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#24981: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:25:50 AM

Simon and Snake are both owned by Konami, but Snake has the advantages of having been in Brawl and Kojima and Sakurai being friends. Meanwhile, Simon could very well be at a disadvantage if Sakurai doesn't want to double-dip third-parties.

Which is a shame. Oh the money I'd give for a Captain N team.

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edited 26th Sep '13 8:26:42 AM by Watchtower

TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#24982: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:32:16 AM

They shoved Pac-Man into a giant wooden mecha because what the hell else can we do with him???

Sonic's moveset was 90% spinning variations, so I'm sure they could put together something for Pac-Man.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
#24983: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:32:33 AM

Yeah, my hope for Simon to get in is pretty much minimal considering Snake has the best chance of returning.

Since Mega Man's reveal, and assuming Sonic and Snake are back, I'm hoping Sakurai will at least include one more third party character to even them out with four, preferably someone from Namco-Bandai.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#24984: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:39:19 AM

...I didn't realize Sonic didn't have two fighting games under his belt, which he had some moves from.

While Pac Man has... one fighting game(Any besides SFxT?), he didn't fight directly as himself. So they didn't even try then either. I have no doubt Sakurai could make a great moveset, but he doesn't have as much to draw from as some characters. Sonic's moves did a pretty good job of showing off his series. They overdid the spins, but he damages a lot of Badniks that way in his actual games.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24985: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:40:15 AM

I was wondering, if Stanley was ever put in the game for some reason, would he be considered a Super Mario rep or a Donkey Kong rep?

[up] Eeyup, Sonic The Fighters and Sonic Battle. (3 if you count Fighting Vipers) And didn't I just list all the Pacman games Sakurai could pull moves from?

edited 26th Sep '13 8:50:21 AM by Rinsankajugin

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#24986: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:40:51 AM

That makes three Links in the 3DS version.

Where was a second Link ever confirmed?

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#24987: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:46:41 AM

[up] There are 3 Links possibly seeable in the 3DS version. Conductor Link in the Spirit Tracks stage, Toon Link, and regular Link.

[up][up] You're thinking of Sonic Battle. Sonic Rush isn't a fighting game.

But Sonic does punch and kick in a similar fashion to Fighters. Anyway, he drew from a lot of his series. I'm sure Pac Man has some neat stuff to work with, though. Not on Sonic's level, mind you. I mean, he has a Hang Glider in one game, so...

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#24988: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:46:45 AM

[up][up]The "3rd" Link is referring to the Spirit Tracks Conductor Link in the 3DS stage.

edited 26th Sep '13 8:46:53 AM by Customer

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#24989: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:50:51 AM

Oh.

Oh, I remember now.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24990: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:52:28 AM

[up][up][up] Oh yeah, I forgot about the hang glider. He could probably use that for some aerial attacks.

edited 26th Sep '13 8:52:48 AM by Rinsankajugin

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#24991: Sep 26th 2013 at 8:56:24 AM

Or his recovery. tongue

I don't find that he has anywhere near Sonic's level of move choices, but he isn't very lacking at this point in time. He can also fly in the new show. I could see him having an eating move akin to Wario/Dedede's a bit. But it'd be without copying, or maybe spitting them out where they're unable to deal or take damage for a while, as a nod to how he affects Ghosts.(that could also work for a Final Smash)

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#24992: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:05:59 AM

By the way, happy 1000th page, thread!

And yeah, Sonic has had plenty of other moves he could have used. The Bounce Smash and Wave/Storm come to mind.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24993: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:07:24 AM

I still think that move from Sonic Battle where he throws a ring in an arc then Light Speeds after it with a second button press would be a great recovery move.

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#24994: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:31:23 AM

So, Toon Link is in? Awesome! cool

And eh, I don't really care if he's a clone or not.

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#24995: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:36:39 AM

"Hi, Hero of Winds! I'm your descendant!"

"Wait... who did I get it on with then?!"

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#24996: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:37:19 AM

And if you could do other moves in between the toss and the dash, it could be a useful mobility tool even on the ground.

But he'll likely keep thr spring.

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#24997: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:37:57 AM

[up][up] A Lynel. They are cat-like. >_>

And yeah, Sonic Battle is filled with great moves. I like that it has controls in a similar vein to Smash as well.

edited 26th Sep '13 9:39:30 AM by Irene

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#24998: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:38:18 AM

Actually, ST!Link is not related to WW!Link. He's living with Nico at the start of the game, and Nico mentions that it's weird how he looks so similar to Link.

ST!Zelda is explicitly WW!Zelda's...I want to say granddaughter, but it might be great-granddaughter.

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#24999: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:40:39 AM

That Nico is still alive should probably mean that she's her granddaughter at most.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25000: Sep 26th 2013 at 9:48:41 AM

I suppose that's true.

The Links are never actually blood related, correct?

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