You chose to give the one game that I was specifically excluding...
I'm not sure working on more than one "series" is enough to say anyone who takes Sakurai's place would be devoid of bias.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Should we really put unofficial Game Mods on Homestage/Super Smash Bros, especially as its unlikely that Nintendo would approve of third parties modding their games without permission?
The reason I ask is Smash Remix was added back to the page after being deleted and I want to know if there's any thread consensus on whether it belongs there or not?
I’d say no, as they aren’t part of the series as defined by the wiki for the purpose of troping. They’re fine on the mods’ own pages.
As I explained in the edit reason, troping mods is also valid, and there's the thing about Crosswicking, so merely having the examples in the mods' pages is not kosher. If there's another section of the Home Stage page where they can go, they could be moved there. But merely cutting the examples is not acceptable.
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But they aren’t part of the series. They can go on the general page for the trope.
Wait… is HomeStage.Super Smash Bros a subpage of the work or the trope?
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Jun 29th 2025 at 8:19:54 AM
My musician pageSo what I would do is put it on the mod’s own page and the trope’s top level page in the Platform Fighters folder.
My musician pageI did move the homestage entry
as you can see in this link, but the part on the Super Smash Bros. page was added back.]
If we're going to have Smash mods on Super Smash Bros page, should we do the same for other Nintendo mods on nintendo pages like Zelda and Fire Emblem?
I support removing because game mods are a type of fan work, and fan works aren't normally grouped together with the source material due to not being officially part of the series. We've had a ATT query about fan games being indented under the main work
a few months ago and I think that the same mindset applies here, after all mods and fan games may be different but they are both separate from the main series.
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Thing is, however, those same examples have to be recorded in the trope article. If mod examples shouldn't be in the franchise's subpage for that trope (though honestly I never heard any rule against this — as I mentioned in my edit reason, the only thing that isn't allowed is to add examples of mods and fangames in the official games' work pages), then at least they should be in the main article's Platform Fighter folder, alongside the other examples from that genre. The idea behind Crosswicking is that, if you have an example of Trope X that appears in Work Y, then it has to be listed in both Trope X's article and Work Y's. The conflict in this case is that Super Smash Bros. has its own Home Stage subpage.
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"Having them in their own pages" but not in the trope pages runs afoul of the policy about crosswicking examples.
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Jun 29th 2025 at 11:54:21 AM
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311Yes you can put it on the main trope subpage, when people are saying to keep it on their own page, they're saying to just keep it off the main series page because fan works aren't part of the main series
"This forum signature likes to refer to itself, as well as to the fact that it likes to refer to itself"I didn't say anything about adding the examples to the main series' page (in fact, the examples were never there to begin with; the involved page is HomeStage.Super Smash Bros, which is a subpage of the Home Stage trope and not the Super Smash Bros. series page). But otherwise we seem to have reached an agreement to put those Smash Remix examples into the Platform Fighter folder of the main Home Stage article, yes?
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311When I said main series page I meant HomeStage.Super Smash Bros
That doesn't really impact anything
"This forum signature likes to refer to itself, as well as to the fact that it likes to refer to itself"The main series page is VideoGame.Super Smash Bros, I think you're misunderstanding the context of the word "Main" here. =/
135 -> 180 -> 273 -> 191 -> 188 -> 230 -> 300 -> 311you know, i think your right and im just tired
"This forum signature likes to refer to itself, as well as to the fact that it likes to refer to itself"Hey, it's alright. This part was just semantics.
I'll go ahead and move the Smash Remix examples to Main.Home Stage, then.
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...what are you talking about? This has nothing to do with fans "being excited because new thing and lack of Smash news" (for starters, the mod is fairly old), and the examples were already moved to the main Home Stage. Your comment was frankly uncalled for (and also had a condescending tone).

Ahem, Kid Icarus.
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