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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#148451: Jun 26th 2025 at 4:43:30 AM

(reddit post with a list of links) dev interviewer Kiwi Talkz is claiming Kirby Air Riders is a a deal between Sakurai and Nintendo for Sakurai to make a game between Ultimate and the next Smash.

I just don't believe this. First, according to Sakurai, the proposal for Air Riders was accepted instantly, which doesn't make it sound like it was part of a major negotiation. Second, I have serious doubts this guy knows anyone high enough up to realistically be saying that. Third... I don't think Sakurai is going to be involved with Smash 6. If they wait for Sakurai to finish Air Riders first, the earliest Smash 6 could reasonably release is 2029, way later in the console's lifespan than any previous Smash title

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#148452: Jun 26th 2025 at 5:18:32 AM

That, or he is working on both at the same time.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#148453: Jun 26th 2025 at 5:37:39 AM

I'm not gonna lie, I'd be happy if Sakurai steps away for the next Smash Bros. People worship him like he's the best game developer on the planet, but he's responsible for some bafflingly terrible decisions.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#148454: Jun 26th 2025 at 5:42:00 AM

That, or he is working on both at the same time. 

I know I've heard that the Air Riders team is the same team that was working on Ultimate. If true, this is unlikely

Edited by Hylarn on Jun 26th 2025 at 5:42:40 AM

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#148455: Jun 26th 2025 at 6:39:21 AM

[up][up]what terrible decisions?

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#148456: Jun 26th 2025 at 8:20:30 AM

[up]Brawl's tripping mechanic, for one.

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Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#148457: Jun 26th 2025 at 8:35:25 AM

All of the RNG-based collection items. Some of the unlock requirements in the earlier games were absurd. Not sure if I'd call it terrible, but the smash ball is definitely baffling

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#148458: Jun 26th 2025 at 9:22:55 AM

Honestly, nothing is saying Sakurai couldn't be a co-developer of the next Smash, or just focuses on one aspect instead of the entire project. Its not all or nothing concerning his involvement.

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#148459: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:13:12 AM

Right, the "party game" mechanics of Smash, which is honestly the "intended" way to play.

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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#148460: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:14:50 AM

No matter how baffling some of Sakurai's decisions may be, they could always be worse. Smash could be developed by EPD, and from Mario Kart we know their philosophy on roster choices.

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#148461: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:22:35 AM

The Cow will no doubt be the next Piranha Plant as it was so memetically well known.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#148462: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:47:20 AM

Nintendo is never going to pivot away from the party mechanics that give the game widespread appeal in favor of ones that only satisfy the hardcore demographic, whether Sakurai is there or not.

Caling the randomness bad game design is a massive reach.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 26th 2025 at 10:47:41 AM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#148463: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:50:02 AM

I'd say the biggest boneheaded decision for me is Sakurai not wanting to do more story mode cutscenes because... they end up on Youtube. Like that's somehow a problem? People aren't going to be skipping Smash Bros because they can just watch the cutscenes online.

Hylarn (Don’t ask)
#148464: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:50:53 AM

I wasn't calling the pokeballs bad game design, I was complaining about the gacha mechanics and random drops

And, like, having an unlock at a 1000 versus matches is the opposite of casual-friendly

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#148465: Jun 26th 2025 at 10:54:22 AM

[up][up]yeah no that's like genuinely the DUMBEST thing Sakurai has done imo

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what is bro on about 😭

at this rate, don't include unlockable characters! people will just go look how to unlock them up!

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#148466: Jun 26th 2025 at 1:31:38 PM

I'm not sure it really matters 15+ years later.

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#148467: Jun 26th 2025 at 1:46:21 PM

I will say, if Ultimate really is the last Smash game, at least it went out on a high note.

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#148468: Jun 26th 2025 at 3:45:39 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]&[up][up][up]Again, that's a myth. Surprised it still makes rounds, though a part of me thinks because a fan project just got "revived" so once more clueless shitflinging happens.

Sakurai did lament that cutscenes end up being in youtube, but not because people were going to lose interest or anything. He stated that they'd lose the surprise or context of the cutscenes. But he didn't remove their existence and "deleted" them. Nor how this is tied to SSE not being a thing anymore. You know what we got instead?

Cinematic character trailers since Smash 4. That was his response. Why make ingame cutscenes when you can make them as trailers instead, without needing context? They become timeless too.

Edited by Ookamikun on Jun 26th 2025 at 3:49:45 AM

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#148469: Jun 26th 2025 at 4:07:01 PM

Smash could be developed by EPD, and from Mario Kart we know their philosophy on roster choices

Exactly. Mario Kart rosters can be downright awful.

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#148470: Jun 26th 2025 at 5:56:12 PM

I’d be down for the next Smash game to be at HAL once more with Kumazaki directing. Even if there’s the risk of Modern Kirby getting too much representation (not that it’s a bad thing) it’d be better than a roster in a EPD developed Smash game

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#148471: Jun 26th 2025 at 6:02:19 PM

If Sakurai cannot or will not direct another SSB game, Kumazaki's my top pick for successor.

Even so, I think Sakurai's style is inimitable and, while I don't agree with every development choice he makes with SSB, I do think the series just wouldn't be the same without him and his work ethic.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#148472: Jun 26th 2025 at 9:40:01 PM

In terms of having anybody else take the reigns, it'd likely just result in the aforementioned EPD style roster, because anybody else will be on Corporate's extremely tight leash, especially with the current iteration of Nintendo.

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#148473: Jun 26th 2025 at 11:20:03 PM

Again, this reeks of speculation since we don't know if the Mario Kart roster choices would translate to Smash or not.

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#148474: Jun 26th 2025 at 11:24:31 PM

Also note that Sakurai wasn't Just a "kirby machine" unlike Kumazaki. He actually handled more than one IP.

Edited by Ookamikun on Jun 26th 2025 at 11:24:51 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#148475: Jun 27th 2025 at 12:32:49 AM

What other IP did Sakurai handle?

Something before Kirby...or since Smash Ultimate.

Nothing in between. From 2012.

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