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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#145101: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:31:00 AM

I find it unlikely there won't be another FE game after Engage before the next SSB game is a thing.

Though even if Engage is still the new hotness by then, there's no guarantee they wouldn't pull a Pyra/Mythra and make somebody else the playable rep over Toothpaste-Chan/Pepsi-Kun.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#145102: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:31:26 AM

I'm definitly not looking forward to the "stealing a slot" discourse making a return.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#145103: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:40:00 AM

Speaking of new characters from old franchises, Noah is honestly a shoe-in.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#145104: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:41:50 AM

[up][up]You brought it up by bringing up the "who should get cut" discourse.

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#145105: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:54:06 AM

I actually doubt that they'd keep Lucina because in my mind she'd be the easy first cut of the FE crew because she's literally just Marth but without the tupper, making her easy to get rid of.

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#145107: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:57:57 AM

i will be immeasurably salty if roy gets cut

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#145108: Sep 24th 2022 at 10:59:50 AM

If you're gonna make cuts, the echo fighters in general are probably first to go.

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#145109: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:00:13 AM

You brought it up by bringing up the "who should get cut" discourse.
I meant more the kind of arguing in the vein of: "How dare you be happy that X got in, they clearly stole Y's slot".

I actually doubt that they'd keep Lucina because in my mind she'd be the easy first cut of the FE crew because she's literally just Marth but without the tupper, making her easy to get rid of.
I'd say it depends on what exactly the future of Echo fighters will be. I could see Lucina getting retooled into a more unique character.

I'm admittedly not that versed in FE, but wasnt she one of the faces of the game that pretty much saved the franchise? Definitly seems like she is quite important to the series.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Sep 24th 2022 at 8:10:01 PM

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#145110: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:00:17 AM

yeeeah the only one that i doubt would be cut is ken because ken's not much like ryu

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#145111: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:09:07 AM

IMO I think the FE characters who are most likely to stick around for Smash 6 are Marth (since he is more or less the face of the franchise), Chrom and Lucina (since they're arguably both second to only Marth as some of the franchise's most iconic characters), Roy (for being a fan favorite character), and maybe Robin (to complete the Awakening trifecta).

I figure everyone else is likely to sit out of Smash 6 in favor of the protagonist of whichever FE game is the latest installment during the development of Smash 6.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#145112: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:20:54 AM

I really find "who's gonna get cut!" speculation annoying.

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#145113: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:25:23 AM

[up]Especially since we know it will be Mario as the only cut.

-Witty line-
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#145114: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:37:56 AM

I don't think Echo Fighters are on the chopping block myself precisely because they're clones of other characters.

It's much easier to bring back Lucina if you already have a functioning Marth to branch her off of than it is to bring back a wholly unique character. Lower-effort to create a character means lower-effort to recreate them, too.

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#145115: Sep 24th 2022 at 11:38:31 AM

I wish they did more echoes.

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MisterTambourineMan Unbeugsame Klinge from Under a tree Since: Jun, 2017 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
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#145116: Sep 24th 2022 at 12:44:40 PM

[up][up] Friend speaks my mind. If Martha's a shoo-in, then Lucina's probably coming with him.

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#145117: Sep 24th 2022 at 12:49:27 PM

[up] x4

Damn it, I was gonna say that!

Lucina seems like a reasonable "keep" because of popularity. Engage seems to be using her over Robin or Chrom.

Agreed that Echo Fighters are easier to keep if anything. I wouldn't mind more, or maybe something that kind of splits the differnce between an echo and a fancy costume.

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#145118: Sep 24th 2022 at 12:58:55 PM

If Daisy and Richter (and to a lesser extend, Dark Samus and Dark Pit) make it to future installments, they could use some more differences to make them more than Peach With A Slightly Different Hitbox (they removed one of the only differences she had after launch, her higher base knockback but lower knockback scaling turnips, for goodness sake) and Simon With A Slightly Better Olimar Matchup, respectively.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#145119: Sep 24th 2022 at 1:44:13 PM

Daisy's odd turnips actually came about a bit later on, and was fixed in a later update. It was basically a simple update error in the first place.

Dark Pit does have a few different moves, but he's only slightly better than Dark Samus and Chrom(who have either a new move or elemental differences which show up fairly often. Chrom also has a unique mechanic, but otherwise, practically in a similar position to Dark Pit and Dark Samus).

Richter has a slight move difference due to how elements work, and poor Daisy literally has a different hurtbox in a few moves(which rarely makes a difference anyway) to separate her from Peach.

It wouldn't be hard to fix them up. Use a custom move for most(Richter aside), add a new move or change a move a bit, etc.

Shadow?
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#145120: Sep 26th 2022 at 2:35:19 AM

I find it funny that Dark Pit ended up not having a clone of a final smash because the original one got removed in Ultimate (the Arrow).

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#145121: Sep 26th 2022 at 7:44:54 AM

It's still a clone, just of Link rather than Zelda/Sheik.

TheHeroHartmut Nerds nearly need needy nerdy nerds from a cave, according to my father (Ancient one) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#145122: Sep 26th 2022 at 11:51:01 AM

Technically, Link's FS is now the clone. Dark Pit had his staff before Link started using the Ancient Arrows.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#145123: Sep 26th 2022 at 11:56:03 AM

Ancient Arrows don't go through multiple opponents, it explodes on impact.

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badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#145124: Sep 26th 2022 at 11:56:18 AM

It's clones all the way down.

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Edited by badtothebaritone on Sep 26th 2022 at 1:56:37 PM

ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#145125: Sep 26th 2022 at 3:41:15 PM

Since there is pretty much no way Smash 6 will menage another everyone is here, I would assume that some Fire Emblem characters would be among the first party characters to definitly get cut.

I would expect Marth, Lucina and Byleth to stick around but beyond that I could see everybody else sitting the game out. People would probably a lot more fine with a new FE character without the oversaturation going on.

If it were up to me, I'd keep Marth, Ike, Robin and Byleth and make Lucina an alt of Marth.

I know no one likes thinking about cuts because every character is somebody's favorite, but one way or another, the cuts are coming. The roster can't keep growing at this rate forever and I also doubt Sakurai can pull an "Everyone Is Here" twice in a row. Plus character distribution is very unequal across franchises. There is definitely some balancing in order.

Personally, I'd probably cut about 20-30 characters from the current roster, starting with clones/semi-clones/echoes that can't be easily turned into alts. This includes characters I like.


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