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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#133226: Oct 3rd 2020 at 6:56:31 PM

My most wanted 4 are Neptune, Asuka from Senran Kagura, Shantae, and Viewtiful Joe.

I’m not convinced that Shantae is deconfirmed. And I’m aware how unlikely my picks are. It just is kinda soul crushing to see a character you want be deconfirmed.

I’m also wondering why the US versions of the presentations like to censor the names of M-rated games.

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#133227: Oct 3rd 2020 at 7:42:42 PM

I guess so that it's not an overt advertisement for a game with a much higher age rating, since if they're not actually in Smash, the Smash advertisements can't present a toned down version?

I really hope I'm less sad and salty about it tomorrow.

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MEKristian Since: Nov, 2009
#133228: Oct 3rd 2020 at 9:10:59 PM

The rest of the pass will most likely be one of two categories "1st party characters Nintendo wants to push (likely not including anybody from Monolith Soft)" and "3rd party characters from large, Japanese companies (most likely with NES/SNES Legacy).

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#133229: Oct 3rd 2020 at 9:57:32 PM

Okay, so I’m watching Source Gaming’s reaction to the presentation, and since they were watching the UK stream, I can confirm that the not naming M-rated games is unique to the US versions. I’m curious as to why.
After Joker's reveal, I believe many months after, ESRB had a new policy regarding M games. Apparently you're not allowed to show M-rated game titles in E-10 rated games else you'll bump your game's rating.

Edited by Ookamikun on Oct 4th 2020 at 1:00:15 AM

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#133230: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:05:40 PM

[up] Not the games themselves, from my understanding, but the videos that present them. Not just for M-rated games either; the direct for Mario's 35th anniversary was rated Teen only because there was a short portion talking about Super Mario All Stars coming to SNES Online, which has a few Teen rated games.

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SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#133231: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:11:34 PM

So then what would they do if a character from another M-rated game was in the DLC? Are they still allowed to mention the source material in the game itself?

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#133233: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:38:16 PM

[up][up]Just presentations apparently.

[up][up][up]Didn't know ESRB is wonky like that.

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#133234: Oct 3rd 2020 at 10:49:27 PM

[up][up]Any suggestions? I also posted the same post in the Create-A-Fighter thread, with a moveset for Tails as well. I can only hope such an idea crosses Sakurai's mind. It's fully possible with assets still in game. I just wish there was a better Knuckles costume (also an asset in game), and a better Tails mask (I wouldn't even buy the one currently available).

I guess that's a better way of putting it. I've given up hope for most/all of my list of the likeliest, and the rest of my list I'd like to see, but a lot less, and they're a lot less likely. I feel really shitty saying/thinking it, but even if Tabuu, Yoshimitsu, and Eevee all got in, my hype for this pass and future DLC is pretty much dead as of this weekend. I'm not expecting a Shantae or Tails surprise. And since I'm of the strong impression that this will be the last Smash Bros game, I'm just going to need to come to closure with that, and enjoy the characters that are there. And at least Travis is a Mii costume. It could be a lot worse.

Edited by wanderlustwarrior on Oct 4th 2020 at 2:13:32 PM

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#133235: Oct 3rd 2020 at 11:35:15 PM

Who I want:

  • I'm pretty much satisfied after the Banjo and Steve reveals.

Who I expect:

  • Rillaboom. Out of all the Gen 8 Pokémon, this one makes the most sense.
  • Felyne (Monster Hunter), another Capcom rep. I didn't pick the Hunter themselves, because I personally find them to be a boring Featureless Protagonist.
  • Rex and Pyra (Xenoblade 2). Heck, it doesn't even break the non-existent "No Spirit Fighters" rule. And while I don't like the Xenoblade franchise too much, I think that its fans deserve a second rep.
  • Shantae. For a second Indie rep, she really isn't off-the-table. She's just a Spirit and has a lot of potential, as well as heavy ties to Nintendo.
  • Crash Bandicoot, after everything that happened so far, I'm actually surprised that Crash isn't playable yet.
  • Phoenix Wright, same argument as Crash.
  • Geno, another RPG rep, definitely not off-the-table by all accounts. Sakurai himself stated that he wants him playable.
  • And maybe another Zelda representative. Probably Impa, though I have given up on the thought myself.

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#133236: Oct 4th 2020 at 12:12:26 AM

...for some reason i'm feeling like a Danganronpa character is happening. More specfically, Monokuma or Hajime Hinata.

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#133237: Oct 4th 2020 at 1:11:42 AM

My only two guesses at this point are Rex and Geno.

Rex is practically a lock given Sakurai's "he would have made it in pass 1 if his game released earlier" explanation. It's possible he'll get spurned again if Sakurai feels the Mii Fighter costume is good enough, but I think he's more likely than not.

And Geno just seems like the sort of Ridley-esque cult character who'd be perfect to end Ultimate's development on as Fighter Pack #11.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Oct 4th 2020 at 4:12:17 AM

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Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
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#133238: Oct 4th 2020 at 1:32:00 AM

[up]It's up to Nintendo, not Sakurai.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133239: Oct 4th 2020 at 5:20:54 AM

As far as predictions, Crash and Ryu Hayabusa are the ones I still feel safe about; the other two are a bit murkier.

-Capcom Character (My instinct is Dante but there's also a curveball of a Phoenix, MH, or Amaterasu)

-Square Enix Character (Sora feels increasingly less likely, but even so there's still other options; Neku, Geno, Terra, Lara Croft)

I also think there's outside chance of Lloyd Irving if Bandai Namco get a character.

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#133240: Oct 4th 2020 at 6:05:32 AM

I'd honestly rather have Heihachi rather than Lloyd. I know that the Tales of... series is beloved, but Tekken just feels more iconic and fitting for the game, especially since Heihachi himself was considered for 4.

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#133241: Oct 4th 2020 at 6:30:21 AM

If a rep comes from Bandai Namco, though not that high on my overall list, I’d want it to be Agumon just for everything that would be made Hilarious in Hindsight with Digimon vs. Pokémon.

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#133242: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:00:24 AM

I feel there's a bit of Double Standard here.

  • Travis is reconfirmed because he has a Mii costume.

  • Rex isn't deconfirmed despite having a Mii costume.

Stick with one, people.

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#133243: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:00:31 AM

For Namco, I wouldn't mind Agumon.

I'll be shocked if Phoenix Wright didn't get any content in this game, even a spirit event.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#133244: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:04:22 AM

I've recently got into NiGHTS into Dreams… and would like a Nights rep. But if not that's okay. ^^

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powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#133245: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:09:12 AM

RE: The bizarre ratings issue:

So the ESRB is being very weird with censorship.

I wonder if it’s because they’re trying to curb the issue of young kids playing M-rated games, but I think it is kinda a bit much.

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#133246: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:16:24 AM

> So the ESRB is being very weird with censorship.

Selective is the word I'd use,they want to give the impression they're censoring harmful content because really I think they chose things to censor on a whim.

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#133247: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:27:12 AM

It doesn’t seem that unclear to me.

Because if the way Nintendo structures these trailers (“Super Smash Bros. Ultimate X Persona 5”), they act as advertisements for both games. If you’re advertising an M-rated game, the trailer has to have an M on it. Nintendo doesn’t want the M on Smash Bros. trailers, so they change the trailer to use the character’s name in a generic font instead of the series’ logo.

Probably they ran afoul of the ESRB when they were promoting Joker and had to change the way they presented the costumes afterward.

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#133248: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:27:49 AM

[up]×6

The thing is, Rex's costume is older. It's more plausible for them to have decided to add him as an actual fighter since then, whereas if Travis was going to be part of pass 2, why also have him as a Mii costume? Given they've presumably finalized who will be in the second pass by now.

If we get a pass 3 and know they weren't already certain who would be in it when adding this costume, Travis will be plausible again.

Not saying Rex is necessarily likely, either, just possible.

Edit: [nja]

Edited by FGHIK on Oct 4th 2020 at 9:28:21 AM

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#133249: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:33:12 AM

Its worth noting that is appears to be an American name condition given that the UK Smash stream actually had No More Heroes listed as opposed to Travis for its video.

Edited by BorneAgain on Oct 4th 2020 at 10:34:45 AM

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#133250: Oct 4th 2020 at 7:55:13 AM

I'm guessing it's because the ESRB is does not want to advertise M-rated games to children because Think of the Children!.

I don't know, I think not allowing Nintendo to say the source material is a bit too much. I understand toning down a character that's in Smash, but not naming the source material.

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