TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Super Smash Bros.

Go To

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#128876: Jun 2nd 2020 at 11:29:42 PM

I think the "anime swordsman" thing ignores that while there are a lot of humanoid pretty boys with big impractical swords, they also come from varying visual styles and play radically differently for the most part. I guess Shulk and Cloud have a bit of a ven diagram going on but that doesn't apply much to Link, Hero, Joker, and Pit.

Dunking on FE is always okay because it's a classic American tradition, and if you hate tradition that means you hate Freedom.

Edited by RodimusMinor on Jun 2nd 2020 at 2:31:50 PM

ultimate_life_form Since: Aug, 2019
#128877: Jun 2nd 2020 at 11:43:13 PM

Roy is still the best FE char in terms of playing as him.

Zanreo Gizmondo from Glitch City (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Gizmondo
#128878: Jun 2nd 2020 at 11:53:51 PM

Might just be the communities I've been in but I've always seen way more comments/jokes/ect. about people hating "anime swordfighters" than people actually complaining about "anime swordfighters" as a whole

My favorite failed console tbh
agent-trunks IHE from Every-where, but there Since: Apr, 2015
IHE
#128879: Jun 3rd 2020 at 3:45:21 AM

Doesn't make any less of a stupid complaint

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#128880: Jun 3rd 2020 at 3:56:38 AM

[up][up]I see a lot of them especially on places like comments and reactions.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#128882: Jun 3rd 2020 at 5:50:55 AM

Most that comes from generic anime swordsman recently is that being the main reason why those in familiar with Dragon Quest didn’t like Hero when he was revealed. Otherwise it’s at most a low grumble from some people.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128883: Jun 3rd 2020 at 6:09:14 AM

With the disagreements and disparagement about whether to have "anime swordsman" or "cereal box mascots", the only way to heal the divide is to have a animal platformer character who wields a sword.

Sparkster... its your time to shine.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#128884: Jun 3rd 2020 at 7:39:06 AM

So, I have though of another Unexpected Character that can show up, and it's related to my "I want Neptunia characters in Smash" thing...

Noire.

Why? She's actually my favorite character in the series, but the reason she'd be unexpected is because she's essentially a Play Station.

Speaking of Play Station, I've got a few characters from that brand I'd like to see, even if it's very unlikely:

  • Jak and Daxter
  • Sly Cooper
  • Ratchet
  • Nathan Drake
  • Kat from Gravity Rush

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#128885: Jun 3rd 2020 at 7:41:36 AM

I feel like Nathan would be hard to make work in a Smash setting since he only climbs things and shoots.

The legend has returned.
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#128886: Jun 3rd 2020 at 7:44:55 AM

[up]Play Station All Stars made him work.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#128887: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:04:21 AM

He also throws the wildest haymakers.

And like...all Snake does is sneak and shoot. All Sonic does is run. All Wii Fit Trainer does is yoga.

ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#128888: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:10:10 AM

I would have preferred if they made Hero into a character and an echo and split the command selection in half between the two of them. Have default hero be Erdrick with Eight as his alt and Eleven is the echo with Four as his alt.

And anime swordsman is a weak complaint as the bulk of fantasy protagonists use swords, so having a bunch of characters with swords is hard to avoid, like the first Dissidia with the heros side. That complaint mostly started from the FE characters since there's alot of them and that they are represented using swords despite the series having many other weapon options. That complaint will never go away in discussion, though, and will only get worse if they keep adding FE characters to Smash.

-Witty line-
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#128889: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:14:48 AM

At least in future games they’re extremely unlikely to have all of them there at once. If they stick to like, Marth, Robin, one other one, and a new one, their numbers will be much more reasonable.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#128890: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:16:54 AM

Corrin feels like the more expendable one. Uniqueness aside, not many people really like them so if someone of the non-semiclones/echoes were on the chopping block, Corrin is the most likely to go.

That said, please don't devolve into cut talk. That is the worst topic and i should have said anything tonguetonguetongue

Uni cat
ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#128891: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:24:37 AM

I'd rather they just add to Ultimate instead of making Smash 6.

-Witty line-
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#128892: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:46:04 AM

[up] Same.

I do see why people think that we aren't going to get another game on the same scale as Ultimate, but Ultimate is pretty much perfect gameplay-wise to me.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#128893: Jun 3rd 2020 at 8:53:37 AM

The reason people say that the next game isn’t going to be on the scale of Ultimate is becaise Sakurai himself has stated that there’s probably ever going to be a Smash game on this scale ever again.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#128894: Jun 3rd 2020 at 9:01:46 AM

Even if that wasn't a terrible idea (it is), it's not possible.

It's a terrible idea because the roster is already going to be over 80 characters. Balance is so important in a game like this, and while they seem to be doing ok at it (from my thoroughly non-educated standpoint, at least), if the roster size kept creeping up toward/over 100, there'd be issues.

This is beside the fact that eventually, the selection of Assists, Items, and Pokemon would be stale and outdated.

But the reason it's impossible is that eventually, the Switch will be obsolete. It's already a three year old system. Once something new comes out, Nintendo's going to want to put Super Smash Bros. on it, and you can't just port over Ultimate and keep building off it. That's a new game, and characters would need to be relicensed for it, which is the barrier to the series ever reaching this kind of roster again in the first place.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#128895: Jun 3rd 2020 at 9:05:08 AM

Given Melee's continued popularity I would think it would be easy for people to sill have Ultimate to go back to no matter what direction Smash 6 goes in.

Fighting game franchises in general have that a lot, one need only look at the continued communities around Marvel vs Capcom 2 in spite of the numerous fighting game releases from the latter company since.

Edited by BorneAgain on Jun 3rd 2020 at 12:06:49 PM

CasualChris Since: May, 2020
#128896: Jun 3rd 2020 at 9:56:49 AM

Personally, I would be fine with Ultimate being the final Smash Bros. game and it just being ported to future systems from now on, preferably with all of the DLC pre-packaged.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#128897: Jun 3rd 2020 at 10:06:48 AM

If it wasn't for the licencing nightmare that is the current roster, I really think that's what they would do.

Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#128898: Jun 3rd 2020 at 10:30:08 AM

[up] This. It is shocking that they even managed to get this to work at all. It must have been phenomenally expensive for Nintendo to pull off (although the investment had doubtless paid for itself several times over).

MisterZygarde64 Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth from New Mobotropolis, Mushroom Kingdom Since: Dec, 2015 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Crazy Crossover Creator - A Man with Many Hypoth
#128899: Jun 3rd 2020 at 10:42:26 AM

Speaking of Play Station, I've got a few characters from that brand I'd like to see, even if it's very unlikely:
* Jak and Daxter
* Sly Cooper
* Ratchet
* Nathan Drake
* Kat from Gravity Rush

Funnily enough, Sly’s developers, Sucker Punch Productions actually had their first game be Rocket: Robot on Wheels which was a Nintendo 64 game.

I’d personally want either Sly or Kat in.

Check out Rogues Gallery Transplant: The Game
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#128900: Jun 3rd 2020 at 10:55:05 AM

Of the characters in that list, Sly seems like the funnest one.

The legend has returned.

Total posts: 148,706
Top