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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#126226: Feb 7th 2020 at 10:07:21 PM

I remember that he was in World FF but obviously, Square Enix could get away with that since it’s their own property and that as you’ve said, they don’t even need to lay the voice actors of Sora because there are no lines.

Think of Smash, they would have to pay Haley Joel Osment who is a semi-celebrity and the Japanese voice (I don’t know), organize with Disney for the character, ask Tetsuya Nomura for the art for the DLC Spirits (that is still disregarding if there even will be Disney spirits), license music from Yoko, and that’s even mentioning the development of Sora’s stage and model itself. If Square Enix is stingy with Cloud (if Square was the only person who didnt return for Smash, they would look like the biggest assholes in the industry), I’m sure they would be even more protective towards Sora.

Finally, Disney wants all the money. They would have to cut the DLC with Square and Nintendo, something that they dont think is lucrative enough to justify Sora being there. Disney Japan would know this the most considering the obvious: Japan which is why they refused most likely. Blame capitalism folks

Edited by M1gamiTensei on Feb 7th 2020 at 10:10:28 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#126227: Feb 8th 2020 at 2:53:49 AM

The answer is simple,have a character wear the dark cloaks worn by org 13 at all times evil grin

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#126228: Feb 8th 2020 at 4:46:42 AM

Shimomura would be the least of the problens since she has already done work for Smash.

Why are Square characters a licensing nightmare? It feels like every character is hold by 5 different parties

Uni cat
ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#126229: Feb 8th 2020 at 5:09:09 AM

It can't all be just licensing issues concerning Square's lack of content. What is the possible excuse to why Cloud doesn't even have spirits?

-Witty line-
NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#126230: Feb 8th 2020 at 5:57:46 AM

When a direct competitor of Nintendo is more willing to contribute than you, you're part of the problem

There was really nothing stopping Square from allowing an Octopath Traveler spirit event

Only other explanation is that Square thinks Smash is a competitor to Dissidia. When Dissidia is not even Smash's league.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#126231: Feb 8th 2020 at 6:35:54 AM

I think it’s more likely that Square puts a higher price tag on their content than the other companies, are unwilling to compromise (enough), and are either out of budget or Nintendo are otherwise unwilling to pay out.

I don’t think they’re straight-up withholding content.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#126232: Feb 8th 2020 at 7:23:30 AM

I could imagine that when the put Cloud in Smash 4, Square thought it was a one-off thing that they would never do again and then Sakurai told them everyone would come back in Ultimate, they’d look like the biggest assholes in the industry if they passed up.

Square could have burned down our crops, ruined our water supply, and brought plague to our houses and that would have not compared to the shitstorm of being the only person to not return for Ultimate

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#126233: Feb 8th 2020 at 7:38:06 AM

Every DLC from 4 got more content in Ultimate. More songs, more spirits, a couple assist trophies, hell Street Fighter got an additional Fighter but Cloud coudnt even get a png from his own series and only uses his smash artwork.

Meanwhile, Konami casually returns with 3 fighters, Capcom doubles the amount of content they have in the previous game and SNK casually brings 5 times more songs in a new fighter.

Only Namco has less content that square

Uni cat
M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#126234: Feb 8th 2020 at 7:40:16 AM

Oh yeah, Namco.

Holding everything from Sora, it is strange that Namco-Bandai helped codevelop Ultimate yet have not even anything besides Pacman

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NoName999 Since: May, 2011
#126235: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:12:16 AM

Namco contributed some arcade songs

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#126236: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:13:46 AM

They don’t have much besides Lloyd Irving. (Dark Souls is a part of Namco, right?)

The legend has returned.
TPPR10 Craving for fish from up north Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Craving for fish
#126237: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:15:32 AM

[up]x3 Sakurai has joked that the rest of the dev team forget that they are the ones who made Pac-Man.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#126239: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:26:23 AM

Namco still has more content than Square right now with their Mii costumes, music, items, and spirits.

BorneAgain (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#126240: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:26:25 AM

[up][up]

At the next Direct Sakurai announces the newest franchise coming to Smash:

Edited by BorneAgain on Feb 8th 2020 at 11:30:29 AM

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#126241: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:33:31 AM

I’m expecting something from Namco to come out of the second DLC wave, like Tekken or Soulcalibur since they are freaking fighting games

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ObligatorySarcasm Since: Aug, 2016
#126242: Feb 8th 2020 at 8:35:49 AM

Not even making Ms Pacman an echo or alt costume.

I wish they did more with echoes.

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SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#126243: Feb 8th 2020 at 9:41:43 AM

Ms. Pac-Man could’ve been an alt costume for sure.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#126244: Feb 8th 2020 at 10:00:58 AM

Here’s how much each third party (that has a playable character) has in Ultimate:

  • Konami: 3 characters, two stages, about 40 music tracks, a bunch of Spirits, 3 assist trophies, 1 Mii costume
  • Sega: 3 characters, 4 stages, about 40 music tracks, a bunch of Spirits, 4 assist trophies, some Mii costumes
  • Capcom: 3 characters, 2 stages, about 60 music tracks, a bunch of Spirits, 3 assist trophies, some Mii costumes
  • Bandai-Namco: 1 character, 1 stage, about 20 music tracks, some spirits, 1 assist trophy
  • Square-Enix: 2 characters, 2 stages, about 10 music tracks, very few spirits, some Mii costumes
  • Microsoft Game Studios: 1 character, 1 stage, a few Spirits, about 10 music tracks, 1 Mii Costume if we consider Cuphead to be a Microsoft character (they funded the game)
  • SNK: 1 character, 1 stages, a few Spirits, about 50 music tracks, some Mii costumes

Edited by powerpuffbats on Feb 8th 2020 at 12:26:32 PM

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#126245: Feb 8th 2020 at 10:03:52 AM

With Ms. Pacman, Namco actually didn't have the rights to her until relatively recently if I recall.

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M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#126246: Feb 8th 2020 at 10:09:17 AM

It’s because Ms Pacman was originally a fanmod they bought out and Bandai had to sue those guys to get back Ms Pacman’s copyright. There explains why there is no Ms Pacman echo.

Plus, I don’t think there will be any echo fighters in the first place in the DLC packs, as they said all characters would be original and dont want whiny consumers being ripped off

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#126247: Feb 8th 2020 at 10:21:43 AM

Is that why she hasn't been any recent Pac-man stuff?

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#126248: Feb 8th 2020 at 11:15:34 AM

Capcom has 4 AT: Wily, Zero, Guile and Rathalos

Uni cat
Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#126249: Feb 8th 2020 at 11:19:43 AM

The 1-Up flag and Boss Galaga are also Bandai-Namco items.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#126250: Feb 8th 2020 at 11:41:41 AM

I still thing the next Bandai-Namco character should be Agumon. If Game&Watch counts as a videogame, so should V-Pets.


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